MRAPs

[thatguy96]

Just to be clear on this, the Mastiff is a Force Protection Cougar variant. These vehicles were bought as COTS items and that name was not given to them by the USMC. That's the name they have always been marketed under by Force Protection (there's some issue with the Typhoon nomenclature, but if this did exist, it didn't last very long). Mastiff, and now Mastiff 2 are names applied to subvariants of the pattern tailored to British needs, just as the USMC and US Army have a number of Cougar subvariants in service. The British were also investigating a 4x4 subvariant, referred to as the Ridgeback, and Force Protection's new Tactical Support Vehicle Cougar variant as the Wolfhound.

More info:
http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/fig...cles/1483.aspx
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/mrap-var.htm

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

The South African Army (SAA) under Project Sepula is looking to replace the CASSPIR and MAMBA with the RG-35 MRAP by 2012. This would mean to BAE South Africa an order of 1,232 units to outfit SAA's 4 regular and 6 reserve Infantry Battalions. It is likely the order will be increased to further augment 1 regular and 3 reserve Internal Stability Battalions (ISB) as well.
BAE will offer a 4x4 RG-35 variant as well. New Pictures:


Source for info and pictures: army-technology.com

[Suhiir]

Last I checked the USA/USMC M-ATV was going nowhere in a hurry.
One of the main reasons they want them is because these days most of HUMMERs are being armored, and of course they're too wide to fit in most current medium helos so they need something smaller and lighter.
But, of course, a vocal faction insists they need to be armored, which makes them to heavy to do the job they're intended for.
So as it stands, while the M-ATV may still be in development, the USMC at least, has no real interest in them.

[thatguy96]

Committing to buy 6,500 vehicles sounds like at least someone has an interest in them (even if its only Oshkosh heh). The first 2 vehicles arrived in Afghanistan in September. By that point DoD had issued contracts for a little over 5,000 M-ATVs.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Here's another article from logistics command about M-ATV:
http://www.dla.mil/DLAPublic/DLA_Med...es.aspx?ID=500. And yes OSHKOSH is contracted over the 6500 unit mark within the last month to include a contract through the Army that will lead to the Marines getting about 1,100 units and the Air Force and "my" Navy just under a 100 units each. Again OSHKOSH did deliver it's 1000th unit last month. As pointed in this article and MANY other places "my" (Since I ultimatley still get paid by him in my current position and the taxpayer.) SECDEF has said the MRAP and M-ATV programs represents the largest design to production since WWII. Powerful stuff and don't we all wish we owned some OSHKOSH stock now...well better a year or two ago anyway!?!
Pat

[Suhiir]

MmmmK - my info was out-of-date, I stand corrected.
Thanks!

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Everything's good! There's just so much info out there I (we) end up "reacting" to it. This was good for me in that it showed me that my 3 primary sources were up to date, ahead of many others and accurate when cross referenced. I researched the sources and have only felt comfortable in the recent few months to start putting info out here (hence the year or so gap since I first posted.). It's not about who's right or wrong, or who can pile it on, personally I just want to be as accurate as possible, be informative, have some fun and hopefully see some of this equipment get into the game as time allows. The inputs I've recieved from some I hope I've learned from as I know my initial MRAP and Patriot battery posts caused some...,and as they did for me to. So I'll do the best I can and someday at the WinSPMBT retirement home we can sit around and have some good though I have to admit I'm pretty uncompromising in my tastes there, must be that Irish/German stock in me!?! Yes Don and Andy I'll get back on topic, is it just me or does it seem like they're just everywhere!?! Have a good night all and a great weekend!!
Pat

[DRG]

Normally I copy down everything like this for the erros list to investigate but this thread I didn't becasue it was generating so much info. I have added somethings ( the RG35 for one ) but it's looking more and more like the existing work is going to take me right up to the release date in March.

What I need now is a consise list, by nation of every one of these vehicles that is KNOWN to be in production or in service. I don't need things that are on the drawing board that might/maybe be produced in 5 years.

Nation / Name of vehicle / Indroduction date / number of men it will carry / link to photograph and further information

so


South Africa / RG35 / 2012 / 14 men / LINK

That will speed the process considerably

Don

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Don,
Understand, keep items at "KISS" for upcoming patch. At your convenience, can you by the numbers just give me quick answers to the following:
1. Understand RG-35 is in (thanks!), do you need me to go back and resubmit the other equipment I've already posted as well on the MRAP/APC threads?
2. Is Singapore going in? Because of Terrex and others.
3. Plan to focus on the 2009-2012 time frame, is this acceptable to reduce load on all concerned or go further out for equipment to be fielded only within the time frame?
4. What's my deadline for submissions?
For your info will be on vacation away from home 1-9 Feb. Will post to my related threads and will suspend until the deadline my longer posts so you know there's something there for you or others that might be assisting you.
Thanks!
Pat

[DRG]

1- What I need is a simple list like I described of the "for sure" vehicles to save a lot of time I really don't have to spare ATM

2- There is NO chance Singapore is going into the game. What you see now is what you get

3, see #1, I just want the "for sures"

4- the sooner the better but I still have 45 pages of items to get through plus a major comb through of the weapons data so I'm not at a loss for things to do. I don't "need" this until Mid Feb.

Like I said, I just need someone to comb through this thread and set down a nice simple list like I suggested and it will help me get though this faster. Given all I have to do there is always a chance only a few will get into this release but that all depends on what's left to do by the beginning of March. By then I will NOT have 8 + hours a day available to work on this



Don