Mod Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 - Page 9

Burnsaber · #1 September 22nd, 2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho

@archaeolept: OK, probably not a good comparison, but the point remains. Like you said they are Sauromatia's driving force.

And sauromatia is just sooo weak. With these nerfs I just can't see any reason they'd be competive in MP. [/sarcasm]

Jarkko · #2 September 23rd, 2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycho

@Jarkko: Gorgon has the same starting paths as pans. She will bring almost no magic diversity to the nation. That is why there are many other good choices. As pangaea you especially miss astral. I don't see the Gorgon as being so uber powerful.

Err... Isn't this exactly what I said? Pangaea does not *need* the Gorgon, but at the price in vanilla it would be simply stupid to take anything else but an awake Gorgon.

I mean, if you are buying car and can choose a brand new Volvo for 50 bucks or a Ferrari for 2 millions, which one would you choose? Sure, Volvo isn't anything super fancy, it's "just" a comfortable, good and reliable car which is bound to get you where ever you are going, and if you'd get it practically for free...

Master chief · #3 September 26th, 2009, 05:27 PM

Hopefully it is a bug, but Pangaea's CW costs now 90 nature gems and takes 6nature 5death to cast it. I thaught that it was ok in 1.5 to have it cost 50N and to be able to cast it 5n4d. In readme file there is nothing about this change.

chrispedersen · #4 September 26th, 2009, 11:36 PM

Agreed. I liked the 1.5 version.

Psycho · #5 September 22nd, 2009, 01:46 PM

Why shouldn't they be competitive and a top nation? I am sure everybody sees Sauro as a very powerful nation and it wouldn't be hard to convince someone into dogpiling Sauro. It could be a problem for a Sauro player if this conviction remained and the nation got nerfed.

kianduatha · #6 September 22nd, 2009, 03:09 PM

If you wanted to buff Ulm just a little bit, you could make it so that Iron Angels' Divine Grasp attack is bonus, so you can actually equip them with weapons without losing it. As is, even putting on a different one-hander gets rid of it.

quantum_mechani · #7 September 22nd, 2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kianduatha

If you wanted to buff Ulm just a little bit, you could make it so that Iron Angels' Divine Grasp attack is bonus, so you can actually equip them with weapons without losing it. As is, even putting on a different one-hander gets rid of it.

That's a good suggestion.

Micah · #8 September 22nd, 2009, 04:53 PM

The MA Agartha Kin-Breaker hero has some good flavor regarding Agartha getting completely owned on the surface world due to their outmoded cave battle tactics, so I think it makes a lot of thematic sense for Agartha to have adopted ranged weapons in response. Plus they really need the help.

Micah · #9 September 22nd, 2009, 05:08 PM

Oh, and I disagree that no gens makes it harder for a lagging nation to come back, since the leading nation(s) will be able to break into wish cycling and Forge of the Ancients abuse much sooner than a lagging nation, furthering their lead. Gens do force more reliance on national units and gold though, so weaker nations do take a hit, but the solution to that is to buff the nations to get to a point of balance, which also leads to a lot more of a flavorful late game, since tart hordes and armageddon spam won't be the order of the day.

Frozen Lama · #10 September 26th, 2009, 11:38 PM

yeah, i hope qm addresses this soon. if its a bug, i really hope he fixes it very soon