Utility: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki

[Soyweiser]

That isn't how language works. You cannot just use stuff wrongly because you think it works a different way. That way you generate confusion and ambiguity. And as the main objective of language is easy communication. You are misusing language in the most horrible way.

I think Lch already explained that the wiki pages are cached normally. But that he just doesn't have enough hd/memory to keep the entire site cached the whole time. (Also, if dynamic pages have a problem with loading, you want to cache them, not make them static).

Also, in the case of the wiki, you get what you pay for.

And never listen to what your customers say, look at what they do. (Which is a great lesson in life generally. Replace customers with whatever you want. (gamers/family/friends/aliens/etc).

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

That isn't how language works. You cannot just use stuff wrongly because you think it works a different way. That way you generate confusion and ambiguity. And as the main objective of language is easy communication. You are misusing language in the most horrible way.

I'm not misusing language or using stuff wrongly, and certainly not "in the most horrible way". I don't misuse quotation marks, I have no idea why you think your rules are correct or you think yourself an arbiter on this matter. Instead of you telling me how to write, shall we just leave the matter alone. I've always enjoyed the content of your posts.

[Valerius]

Lol, JonBrave I have to say I interpreted your comment as meaning "lch says the site is down but that's probably just another one of his lies - I doubt he even has a 'kid'".

But thanks to lch and everyone else who keeps providing services to the Dom3 community despite no longer being an active player - since they are of course under no obligation to do so. Llamabeast provides one of the two main MP servers and manages CBM and how much does he even play these days? And Gandalf has spent years running the other main server and doesn't even like the MP crowd.

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by Valerius

Lol, JonBrave I have to say I interpreted your comment as meaning "lch says the site is down but that's probably just another one of his lies - I doubt he even has a 'kid'".

Hi Valerius. Is it me or everyone else who's barmy?

Originally I said:

Originally Posted by JonBrave

Any website you know of, they/owner leave current system up while they make changes for new one, then go live. This baby's been gone for weeks & weeks, what can be so difficult?

The "baby" is referring to the web site. Then Ich posted a photo of his baby (which I think is why he said he had been so busy!) --- seems to have been removed from his post now --- and so I said:

Originally Posted by JonBrave

@Ich,

Many thanks for your work, and the return of the site. Now that I've seen the photo, I had not realised that you were so young when I asked in a post about how long the site was down, may I say your IT skills are remarkable for someone of your age.

Which was supposed to be a humorous intimation that the photo might have been of himself (it didn't say), and I was impressed that a baby could write the wiki...

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by JonBrave

Hi Valerius. Is it me or everyone else who's barmy?

I'd prefer not to step into the grammar war but I think many people would view down being in quotes as expressing skepticism about why the site was down. But this is kind of an absurd debate, so regardless of whether the site was down or "down" we can all be happy that it is now unequivocally up.

[momfreeek]

Its all here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark

History

from:

In Early Modern English, quotation marks were used only to denote pithy comments. They first began to quote direct speech in 1714. By 1749, single quotation marks, or inverted commas, were commonly used to denote direct speech.[5]

to:

Signaling unusual usage
Quotation marks are also used to indicate that the writer realizes that a word is not being used in its current commonly accepted sense:

Crystals somehow "know" which shape to grow into.
In addition to conveying a neutral attitude and to call attention to a neologism, or slang, or special terminology (also known as jargon), quoting can also indicate words or phrases that are descriptive but unusual, colloquial, folksy, startling, humorous, metaphoric, or contain a pun: Dawkins's concept of a meme could be described as an "evolving idea".

People also use quotation marks in this way to distance the writer from the terminology in question so as not to be associated with it, for example to indicate that a quoted word is not official terminology, or that a quoted phrase presupposes things that the author does not necessarily agree with; or to indicate special terminology that should be identified for accuracy's sake as someone else's terminology, as when a term (particularly a controversial term) pre-dates the writer or represents the views of someone else, perhaps without judgement (contrast this neutrally-distancing quoting to the negative use of scare quotes).

Thus, that you misunderstood was not a fault of the writer. But misunderstandings happen, and clarifications are given. And then all is understood which is the goal of language.

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by momfreeek

Its all here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark

from:

to:

Thus, that you misunderstood was not a fault of the writer. But misunderstandings happen, and clarifications are given. And then all is understood which is the goal of language.

[citation needed]

[brxbrx]

this is a ****ing ridiculous pissing contest. Just give it up and let it rest.

[momfreeek]

yeah, surely we understand each other soy? thats the goal isn't it?

But I do enjoy these battles on strategy game forums even if its contrary to the purpose of discussion ^^

[lch]

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