Ammo armoured vehicles

[Imp]

Seems odd though, how an M113 can be used as an ammo carrier when you compare its size to other APC of similar size from different countries.

The M113 ammo is a dedicated conversion try googing & probably relativly straight forward as its a tin box on tracks but as mentioned before size is not the issue they could all carry some its access as in ease of un/loading & securing it. Nice hatch arrangement not a problem but look at some APCs the means of egress is not great. If you wanted to push it could have that tops up at 25% of the rate of a dedicated vehicle & always goes bang if its hit but then you would not buy it. Strangely using the APC to carry an ammo cannister sort of simulates this. The truth is in game terms cant see the point they are a very rare casualty you dont try & reload when under fire its a job done out of harms way.

[Jack_Dionne]

Originally Posted by Imp

The M113 ammo is a dedicated conversion try googing & probably relativly straight forward as its a tin box on tracks but as mentioned before size is not the issue they could all carry some its access as in ease of un/loading & securing it. Nice hatch arrangement not a problem but look at some APCs the means of egress is not great. If you wanted to push it could have that tops up at 25% of the rate of a dedicated vehicle & always goes bang if its hit but then you would not buy it. Strangely using the APC to carry an ammo cannister sort of simulates this. The truth is in game terms cant see the point they are a very rare casualty you dont try & reload when under fire its a job done out of harms way.

I guess we will have to agree on disagreeing. I am still standing by my argument that in game terms it’s totally doable.

[Imp]

I guess we will have to agree on disagreeing. I am still standing by my argument that in game terms it’s totally doable

Strange statement or I am misreading, yes its doable so is an armored penguin for that matter just not realistic according to people I trust to know. Your initial comment was something like for play balance all nations should have one. By that rational they should all have APCs attack helos CM arty etc. Sorry not trying to be antogonistic & yes it is a game but the sides have the equipment they field & balance is achieved by points allocation as a huge nod to that fact.

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Jack_Dionne

Seems odd though, how an M113 can be used as an ammo carrier when you compare its size to other APC of similar size from different countries.
How about levelling the playing field.

There is just only one M113 ammo carrier in the game, in the iranian OOB. It may well be a mistake or perhaps the iranians did actually convert some of them with proper stowage (and as noted the type is inherently more suitable than others for this purpose).I know from experience this sort of info isn't easy to come by...
Otherwise in the game as in real life the standard ammo carrier variant of the M113 is the M548, which is basically an unarmored truck on tracks. There are a few MT-LBs, whose prime mover variant has some racks for artillery ammunition if I rememeber correctly, so it could indeed be used for ammo resupply in a pinch.And so on.

Originally Posted by Jack_Dionne

How many people can say they have even been in an APC let alone compare something they have never actually been in.

So you have been in APC and you tell us it's roomy. Well, actually nobody here has disputed that. A guy who has actually dealt with the issue at hand, ammo stowage, tells us:

The issue with ammo is the bulk and weight of the packages. When simply dumped in a crew compartment with no proper preparation, these large heavy lumps will fly about like loose rocks and pulverise any crew.

Which, if you think about it, makes perfect sense. A single 152/155mm shell weighs more than 40kg for example, you definitively are not going to just stack a bunch of them in the troops compartment and then merrily drive around...