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February 24th, 2016, 01:58 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Simply put, no, the USMC is evaluating the ST Engineering/SAIC submission which is the TERREX 2 8x8 which will carry C2/P12
fully equipped troops with resupply. As discussed in ref. 1. Ref. 2 looks at both ACV 1.1 and the MPC Programs. 3. The competition BAE/IVECO from the "ground up". 4. The GAO speaks. 5. Another option? This was expressed in other places as well. I always respect another point of view, however, SAM's come to my mind as another problem and lift capability.
http://www.janes.com/article/54107/s...moured-vehicle
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R42723.pdf
http://www.baesystems.com/en-us/arti...v-1-1-program#
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/stor...ment/75039660/
http://ec.militarytimes.com/pdfs/marine-procurement.pdf
The AVC 1.1 is just the beginning "a stop gap" if you will. If allowed to fully mature, in the end there will be an over the horizon solution-or Dons favorite-something akin to the EFV.
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February 24th, 2016, 08:52 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
EFVP Déjà vu
< singing The Who's "won't get fooled again..........>
( 'cause how could I resist beating my head against that wall again.......) It IS nice that just about every recent APC developed looks the same......it's makes my job easier and before anyone says " hey those are too big" they are 3x sized but they are proportioned to the BAE version
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February 24th, 2016, 08:18 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Ideally whatever vehicle is adopted will carry around 15-20 passengers, a standard 13-man squad plus a 2 to 4-man support team (AT, MG, Engr, whatever) that's a pretty much standard attachment to a Rifle Squad.
The real problem is the USMC can't use large numbers of vehicles simply because all the vehicles used to transport a landing force have to be able to fit into the US Navy amphibious ships. Unless a vehicle that carries half as many troops is literally half the volume and mass as one that carries twice as many it just plain won't work. This is why USMC LVTs are so damn big in the first place. Their APC function is secondary to their amphibious one.
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March 12th, 2016, 04:30 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I'll simply call this " better late than never"...the WARTHOG has gone the way of the VIKING, which is retired then probably sold off or donated. On my list for next year.
http://www.janes.com/article/58712/b...moured-vehicle
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March 17th, 2016, 09:26 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I expect we'll see the ACV 1.1 come into fruition within the new end date expected in the next patch, ACV 1.2 towards the end but, this next if I may quote one of the great heroes in all of history!!!!....this next will continue " INTO INFINITY AND BEYOND!" - BUZZ LIGHTYEAR. Given it's long history and now the probability is this vehicle will be around to the end of the 2020's if not 2030+. ACV 1.1 was never meant to replace the the AAV but to only to augment it. The replacement will come from the ACV 1.2 competition winner whose costs are rising at about 11-12 million dollars per unit still a little less than 1/2 the cost of the EFV. Here's your article...
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...grades-024049/
For my USMC friend out here this morning was a 234/240 (She'll know what I mean.) seven years in a row @ 230+, I think I'm almost ready to take you on at the range!?! But somehow I expect you'd find a way to "legally" shoot over 240!
Still not a 1911 COLT .45 though.
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March 17th, 2016, 10:00 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Just found this to accompany my last post...
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...ine_corps.html
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March 18th, 2016, 02:01 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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Well, looks like the are a LOT more comfortable then the older wood bench. Now if they've figured out how to vent the exhaust outside the vehicle rather then inside the crew/passenger compartment ...
http://www.defensenews.com/videos/de...3/16/81883614/
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March 24th, 2016, 11:01 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
The photo of the Ajax in the game is as good as it gets right now and anything to do with the EBRC or the EBMR is REALLY thin.
When they finally roll those out they will go into the game
Don
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March 24th, 2016, 12:40 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
To the joint effort-yes I've already posted a couple of articles on this. Also yes, way to soon for the game. Just pointing out the fact that we're getting some early confirmation of weapon, ammo performance and the likely configuration of the AJAX. The French JAGUAR is still in the artist conception phase as far as I know.
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March 25th, 2016, 10:51 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Some nice pictures and details for the AJAX variants here: http://www.generaldynamics.uk.com/AJAX/image&video.html
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