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April 11th, 2018, 10:38 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Yeah but the question remaining is......which version is going to be the "MIV"..... the basic APC shown in the photo or the IFV with the 30mm...
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April 12th, 2018, 02:17 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I honestly can't answer that question right now. With it not projected to be in service until 2023, there is sometime left for them to make that final decision. If they follow Australia's lead then the answer would be yes. The plan is for them to be integrated with the AJAX but I feel if the AJAX falls behind the simple answer would be yes. I can also see where there would be one for each section of BOXER's as well for fire support. for now 2C/10P. All we can do is wait and see.
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April 12th, 2018, 07:22 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
There are a host of possibilities. The first one that springs to my mind is they may want a IFV version but using the same turret and 40mm gun as the Ajax.... or use the Ajax turret with a Rarden instead of a 30mm MK 30.....when common sense mates with national politics anything can happen.....
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April 13th, 2018, 01:17 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I should clarify, Australia's BOXER was evaluated with the German 30mm. That's what they are supposed to get along with a mortar, command and ambulance versions. I haven't anything to indicate just a base model for Australia.
UK is to get model as shown, my speculation is again that if AJAX falls behind I would expect UK to follow Australia by mounting the 30mm for the sake of continuity of equipment. I do agree, UK does have several options available to them in regard to weapons stations. We'll just have to see what happens
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May 23rd, 2018, 10:12 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
It's looking like the carry capacity issue for the AAV/SU may solve itself.
The USMC is considering eliminating the anti-tank squad of USMC infantry companies (currently 6x SMAW teams) and issuing the M3A1 MAAWS (i.e Carl Gustaf) as a squad level asset (replacing the AT4 in current WinSPMBT units). The SMAW may be retained in engineer units as currently the M3 doesn't have a thermobaric round.
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May 24th, 2018, 04:24 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I'll wait until just before the next patch before changing anything.......so remind me again in late Feb 2019
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May 24th, 2018, 09:14 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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I'll wait until just before the next patch before changing anything.......so remind me again in late Feb 2019
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Yep.
The idea is still under discussion.
Not sure how it'd be implemented. Increase the squad size to add an AT-man (the way they added the M-79 Grenadier)? Drop one AR or GL (seems most likely)?
Definitely NOT something to worry about till the "powers that be" decide what they'll actually do.
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Well the USMC finally selected a producer for the new ACV.
https://www.marines.mil/News/News-Di...o-produce-acv/
BAE wins !
And a better look at the BAE vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoL2LIyou4
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June 28th, 2018, 10:08 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Yeah...... I don't have to change the Icon......
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Yeah...... I don't have to change the Icon......
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Yay!
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