APC Development and related topics.

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The Turkish ARMA 6x6 has been bought by a foreign country (verified) as the first customer. What I have found is circumstantial evidence (NON BLOG) to suggust it was Saudi Arabia. This is not good enough to get it in the game, does anyone have any info that's ONLY from a reliable source or newspaper that says X country has bought it? Trying to get this very capable piece of equipment in. Yes have checked OTAKAR.

Thanks!

Regards,
Pat

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News of LW

1. BOXER finally gets fielded with the 23rd Mountain Ranger Brigade. The Bundeswehr is slated to get 220 units to replace the 2 ton Unimog trucks in current use.
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/808/
TRACK AND CHECK THIS ITEM AGAINST GAME.

2. STRYKER to get double v-hull protection.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/24385/

3. Happy 10th Birthday STRYKER!
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/24362/

Regards,
Pat

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Though Don has taken care of this, I'm not one to waste good information once gained. So I'll just present the basics since I won't have to "fight" to get it in now. See MBT thread Post #151 Pg. 16, for initial reporting relating to Thailand apparently choosing to replace it's M41A3 tanks with the Ukraine OPLOT MBT. The Ukrainian BRT-3E1 (Export version of the BTR-3U.) is an updated version of the Russian BTR-80. The Ukraine is building the BTR-3E1 brand new. The first initial order of 96 units will be delivered by the end of 2011, with the first two delivered last September. The Thai Army should have (had) by the end of 2010 it's first 22 units while the Thai trainers were in the Ukraine for training in the instructor school starting last Oct. Another 121 units are to be ordered later this year. Units are to cover all operational types with emphasis on the APC and IFV types. Will use June 2011 based on training and equipment availability per first ref. here. Using new expanded format below, is this better for you?
ADD/THAILAND/JUN 2011/BTR-3E1 IFV/C3 P6/Turreted 30mm 250Rds, Coax 7.62mm 2500Rds and ATGW 2x4 KONKURS/DEFENCE 6x81mm S/AeroGL/All vehicle types are FULLY AMPHIBIOUS from the start./Can substitute 30mm AGL 116Rds for cannon./
Other types per last ref.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/secu...etener-to-army
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/inve...an-btr-3e1-apc
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_772.html
http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/btr3u.php
http://www.ds-pa.com/index.php/btr-3...cle-production

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Regards,
Pat

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I'll need to double check the number of infantry the unit can carry. One souse says it's only 6 which "complicates" the OOB. Also, the sources seem to indicate the AGL is included as part of the standard package not a subsitute for the AC so the set up would be similar ( but not quite the same..) to the BTR-4 GROM in the Ukrainian OOB

Don

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Don,
You can rest assured that...

1. All my refs posted thus far including the manufacturers agree with C3 P6, which I'll re-post below for convenience sake. I'm currently playing a long campaign as the Thai vs. China and understand your concern with the OOB, the BTR-3E1 will be about useless in the carry of mainstream infantry units. If not mistaken it won't even be able to carry a Thai HMG section. Looks like RECON, ATGW etc. type units only get to ride in it. But as with the apparent OPLOT buy this was all about getting the "biggest bang for the buck" except for the CEASAR (6 UNITS) and GRIPEN (Both types and they will get the AESA (?) RADAR when available later this year or early next.) where they needed more capabilities vs current equipment.

2. In my "Night Stalker" mode missed the highlighted line of separation between systems on the manufacturers site so, the 30mm AGL is all inclusive to the turret and not a separate option for the cannon.

3. Lessons Learned: The first site is one of my trusted go to sites normally HOWEVER since my AC system has been operating with a mind of it's own lately, I'm a little HOT (Excuses, Excuses...) and missed checking it which would've answered all the questions by itself including why I couldn't find pictures showing all the systems carried on the turret (Those missing 30mm AGL...) on the net, because they had them!! See below.

4. The CORPS might face the same issues with some of the replacements to the EFV. I still think the Brazilian VBTP-MR 8x8 Marine version (See Post #92 A15.) still might get a look before all is said and done it's fully amphibous and will have more then enough carry and operational capibilities for the CORPS. Any takers?
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...#efv-contracts

Refs for the BTR-3E1:
http://www.military-today.com/apc/btr_3u.htm
http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/btr3u.php
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3874.html
Click on lower left links for turret and ATGW system info.

Pics:


UAE Marine version.

From my work calendar: "Constant and determined effort breaks down all resistence and sweeps away all obstacles" it does seem to fit at times.

This is for the AC Tech if he doesn't get here today after almost 2 weeks!!


Regards,
Pat

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Good News! We're on track with some items from the last PP 2010/2011.

1. PARS.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/25059/

2. VBTP-MR and we have a real one to look at now.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4269.html

3. FRES-SV project ahead of schedule.
http://www.generaldynamics.uk.com/ne...e_firing_tests
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2201.html

4. USA GCV Program in jeopardy-again!
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/25359/

5. The cost of canceled vehicle programs to the UK.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...19&c=LAN&s=EUR

6. My nemesis the ARMA 6x6, OTAKAR signs yet a second contract for it to ethier the same or a second unknown country. I WILL CRACK THE CODE-someday!?!
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/25065/

7. And just because I like it, the LAV-AD! As "Gunny" Vandeere likes to say @ work "GET SUM!!", Charles is the man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM82Vuq3PdM

Regards,
Pat

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Had to do some Post research for the current job at hand and thought some might find the following useful. It is a free registration site.
1. The site:
http://www.the-blueprints.com/

2. An example of what you might find:



Hope this will be helpful to some.

Regards,
Pat

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Found more stuff.

1. Poland to field a fully amphibious APC because of the weather of the last few years, yes it said the weather, which rain is and it causes flooding. And it just makes good sense.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...68&c=FEA&s=SPE

2. LAV-3 in for the long haul in Canada.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...66&c=FEA&s=SPE

3. How Heavy for the USA in the future? Here are some answers and questions.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...71&c=FEA&s=SPE

4. Fix those power plants or the Germans will.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...65&c=FEA&s=SPE

5. More on the Danish issue.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...70&c=FEA&s=SPE

Regards,
Pat

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Here's the data from the first Patch Post for 2011/2012 for review. Also related news to include one from my first PP from 2yrs. ago and two off the 2010/2011 campaign. So...

APC Development and...
Was going to post about the German BOXER but as the fielded date falls within just less then six months as agreed to a couple of years ago with Don I won't. See Pg. 11 Post #104 for further details. Also still going to hold off on the ARMA 6x6 however I found a source that says Bahrain has bought them for their Army NG Here is the ref for ARMA and they are the first to report it on these types of sites that I can find. This will be transferred to this thread later as always for all PP segments...
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
This will be brief:

R1. THAILAND/BTR-3E1 IFV/REMINDER/ADD per Posts #105 (Data in normal PP Unit Format.) - #107. /The additional 126 units were ordered but it always helps when the exporter (Ukraine) throws in free units to "sweeten the pot", I'd just settle for some free gas myself!?!
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news121016.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_..._vehicles.html
http://articles.janes.com/articles/J...m-Ukraine.html

A1. ADD/KUWAIT/DESERT CHAMLEON/JAN 2011/C3 P7/RMTS Bushmaster 30mm Rds UKN as Primary Weapon and 12.7mm Rds UKN versions./This is a very versatile turret that is field changeable to carry a range of weapons from a 5.62mm to a 40mm cannon. The USMC is looking at the vehicle but more the turret as a possible upgrade to the AAV-7A1 as the EFV is now dead. The turret is U.S. made.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/us_ar...mation_uk.html
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec...0771295027994/
http://www.janes.com/products/janes/...1&rd=janes_com
http://www.defenseprocurementnews.co...nnel-carriers/
Posts #93 & #94.
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D1. POLAND/BWP-2000/UNIT 442/DELETE/The BWP-2000 program was developed in the early 90's and cancelled by the end of the 90's by Poland. Only two prototypes were built. This program would eventually lead Poland to develop the ANDERS IFV which however suffered the same fate as the BWP-2000 and it was cancelled in 2010. What killed ANDERS was the economy and the fact that Poland was already contracted therefore committed to the ROSOMAK 8x8 of which 800 were ordered. No further development is underway for the BWP-2000. The ANDERS IFV and Light Tank versions are being marketed for foreign sales at this time. ROSOMAK is fielded and still under delivery status until I believe 2013.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1015.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/polan...rmation_d.html
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=25654
Post #1 last unit before "NEW UNITS".
http://aus.krakow.pl/army/polish-com...ly-of-vehicles
See lead in Para on ANDERS Light Tank status and note last sentence in the first full Para below for BWP-2000. Note the word "demonstrator" is used to describe both pieces of equipment. Also see THREAD "Polish Anders AFV" currently on Pg. 1of thread Posts #5 - #12 to include the first few sentences of Post #13 with focus on the refs.

D2. USMC/EFV/UNIT 189/DELETE/Though I brought up the "UNKNOWN" issue as to what it meant, I just can't ignore the reality of the situation at this point given the refs already presented in the last past PP #2 I think, but also since and as presented below. We'll not only need the slot for the likely "improved" AAV-7A1 but also for its eventual replacement. Here's another example for some (present company excluded) about putting in future systems some have asked about, the work involved in putting the unit "together", at some point changing the status in this case twice if deleted, and making room for the replacements. I believe this is what happened with the above D1 unit as well.
http://www.defense.gov/releases/rele...eleaseid=14179 The Commandant.
http://www.defense.gov/speeches/spee...?speechid=1540 Para 2 & 3 starting w/Secretary Gates...
http://comptroller.defense.gov/defbu...ation_Book.pdf
Pg. 10.
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=63557
Para 7.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news...hicles-022111/
http://www.marines.mil/community/Doc...-11/index.html
First two articles are both worth a look, though second is on topic.

News...
1. Malaysia to purchase ANOA from Indonesia.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news127525.html

2. Thailands BTR-3E1 on track. I believe one or both also updates the deal for Thailand to get the OPLOT tank as well from Ukrainians, the contracts were signed last week.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/augus...e_0708111.html
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56

3. Brazil's VBTP also on track.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-Brazil-06048/
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news129364.html
http://www.elbitsystems.com/elbitmai...num=55&num2=55
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4. USA still to get GCV, for now, but seems safe. The JTAV Program is now probaly dead based on budget sources recently reviewed by self.
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/866/
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/27112/

5. The CORPS MPC Program on track.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2255.html

6. Same for Canada with the CCV Program.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2268.html
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news128597.html

7. BAE RG-41 has a good showing @ DSEi.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/27738/

8. Don if you're looking in, is this next worth the effort? BMOD up armoring their CVR(T) current fleet.
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...Operations.htm

And finally for GySgt. "Getsum" Charles V. and the help he gave me on the LAV-AD for the 5.5 Patch Post. And Don for getting it fixed-thanks!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM82Vuq3PdM

Regards,
Pat

[Suhiir]

LAV-A2 standard

Improvements include increased internal and externl armor upgrade package (additional survivability vs IED's, protection from 14.5 mm armor-piercing rounds, and include an anti-spall lining on the inside), automatic fire suppression equipment, and upgrading the vehicle's suspension to the Generation II standard to support the added weight of the new armor, replacing the turret hydraulics with an electric drive system, and replacing the thermal sight with the AN/PAS-13 Improved Thermal Sight System (provides the gunner and commander with thermal images, an eye-safe laser range finder, a fire-control solution and far-target location target grid information).

The LAV's command and control (LAV-C2) version will receive upgrades to improve its ability to operate on the move, including digital command, control, communications, computer and intelligence systems, voice command and control nets, and satellite communications.

http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_lav.php


Available 8/2010 or a bit earlier

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/arti...-8-28-2011.asp