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August 28th, 2022, 02:42 AM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
Well, I was glad to see the S-300 didn't get into the Syrian OOB as there was some speculation that they bought them from Russia.
However, I am investigating based on the ref below that Syria has been operating the S-200 for some time now which I did not see in the Syrian OOB.
Of the 3 batteries of S-300's Russia positioned in Syria one has been removed and is strongly believed to just very recently to be operating somewhere near the front lines of Ukraine probably in or near Crimea.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ef04d4c48b9c02
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August 30th, 2022, 05:34 PM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
Russia finished test and starts production of 2S43 Malva
and here article about this vehicle https://en.defence-ua.com/industries..._yet-4018.html
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October 4th, 2022, 03:23 AM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
Meaby not newest info but Slovakia since August supply Ukraine with new Zuzana 2 SP-guns
That is third incarnation of this famous Dana gun which in 1977 was state of the art first of it class wheeled gun with autoloader.
So evaluation look like that:
M1977 Dana build in Czechoslovakia -> Zuzanna build in Slovakia -> Zuzanna 2 build i Slovakia for their army and now for Ukraine.
Zuznna 2 has a different armoured cabin for driver than previous version what may judge new icon of course based on previous famous DANA.
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/slova...aine-3874.html
And here more actually info
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukrai...lies-4409.html
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/germany-de...s-for-ukraine/
Just look on whole family of this guns here is correct evolution:
152 mm SpGH DANA (also from Czech delivered to Ukraine)
152 mm ShKH Ondava (several prototypes not in production because fall of Czechoslovakia)
152 mm ShKH MODAN vz.77/99 (Modernised Czech variant)
152 mm ShKH DANA-M1 CZ (Modernised Czech variant)
152 mm ShKH DANA M2 (Czech and Polish modernisation also delivered to Ukraine)
155 mm ShKH A40 Himalaya (Slovak on T-72 tracked chassis prototype)
155 mm ShKH M2000 Zuzana (Slovak in Cypriot army variant M2000G with MG3 HMG also Ukraine)
155 mm ShKH Zuzana 2 (Slovak and now also Ukraine)
155 mm ShKH DITA (prototype)
155 mm ShKH MORANA (prototype)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_SpGH_DANA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/155_mm_SpGH_Zuzana
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October 30th, 2022, 11:12 PM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
I'm having to post the whole ref. which is a current update about the war in Ukraine.
Scroll Down below the rail tanker car video, go to the next video. This video confirms to me the Ukrainians did get equipped with the latest HE/AP FRAG round I brought up when discussing entry of the GEPARD. In fact, the video shows that's the ONLY round being fired.
Count the rounds and count the explosions down range. Also note the " tight pattern" also down range. Seen reports they've brought down a little bit of everything that's flying. As it's designed to do.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...7aa030e21acc03
Got things to do but the following will show that those T-55S tanks arrived by rail on the 29th of this month. And yes, they have been updated as I posted in the MBT Thread a while back. Also, UK has sent 105mm rounds as well as Slovenia for the 105mm L7 MG.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ukraine?...=hashtag_click
Hang on!!
https://mezha.media/en/2022/09/20/th...-armed-forces/
https://armyrecognition.com/analysis...riginal%20tank.
This is the best ref. (BELOW) as it's more technical which made it HARDER to find... That being said yes this is still a T-55 Steel Armor HOWEVER the difference is in what's over it from ref. Para 2
"The armour protection of the tank was improved considerably by attaching Rafael ERA blocks to the hull and the turret. This armour is believed to be the latest Israeli Super Blazer system which gives a high level of protection against High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) attack but cannot be activated by small arms fire."
Also, the FCS allows the Commander independent operations that gives it by definition a "Hunter Killer" mode of operation that means TI/GSR 40 based on date of installation in 1999 with "tweaks" since. Again from ref. Para 3
"A digital ballistic computer was installed in order to improve the fire control system (FCS). The gunner has the Fotona SGS-55 two-axis stabilized day-and-night sight with an integral laser rangefinder. In addition to the integral optic sight the commander has the Fotona COMTOS-55 sight with an independent line-of-sight stabilization, which allows him to acquire targets and lay the gun independently if required. The driver has the Fotona CODRIS combined day/night observation periscope.
https://militaryleak.com/2022/09/21/...ks-to-ukraine/
Looks like we get to build a tank!?!  So, for Sxxts and grins...
Chem. Smoke Defense Sys. 2/TI/GSR 40/FC 30/LRF 22/STABILIZER 4 (5?)/SURVIVABILITY 5.
Apparently, the Super Blazer ERA was fitted on the Challenger II TES when deployed. It is designed to work against BOTH KE and CE rounds. And non-explosive up to and including 23mm rounds and to 2-4m distance against 155mm artillery round shards.
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October 31st, 2022, 03:42 AM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Looks like we get to build a tank!?!  So, for Sxxts and grins...
Chem. Smoke Defense Sys. 2/TI/GSR 40/FC 30/LRF 22/STABILIZER 4 (5?)/SURVIVABILITY 4 (5?) .
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October 31st, 2022, 08:11 PM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
Don,
The ICON looks really good! It's your passion and little experience helps as well.
Also, I've looked into the T-55S a little more, and though the info is a little " scant" on this tank and after some further thought, I've edited my last post ( 240) to commit to SURVIBILITY 5.
More a " gut"/integrative feeling based I what've read than anything else.
To my " project" as discussed, ran into a couple of MINOR issues equipment wise which I'll try to PM you on hopefully later tonight.
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January 28th, 2023, 01:17 PM
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Re: SP and SPAA Developments
I'm only posting this to avoid confusion between the two types of CAESAR SPA. I'm not sure of the status of the procurement of the CAESAR 8X8 in regard to how many if any they physically have.
But Denmark has decided to donate all 19 units to the Ukraine.
They are looking to possibly replace them with 19 Israeli ATMOS units due NEXTAR's current production issues to replace French donated units and to meet other existing orders from other countries.
Advantages in the " quick" better armor protection as can be seen in the pics from the refs., the range of the VLAP round is increased to 55km (I believe the 6x6 is slightly less.), carries more rounds @ 36 and is capable of direct fire on targets out to 2000m (I honestly not sure if the 6x6 can do this or not.)
Demark is the only user at this time and again we don't how they have and when they'll release them if they do have them.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...eli_atmos.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/armo...act_sheet.html
Gotta get ready for work, I'll be putting some miles on my boot soles today!!!!  And loving it for real!!
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