MP STACKERS, newbie game, (started) - Page 30

Amadamus · #1 July 2nd, 2010, 09:33 AM

Ah come on BG - someone stole your PW and then reset all your moves? Occam's razor mate. Most likely you have not pressed the end turn button and quit and saved instead.

I can't help but see the irony of the situation though and i must commend you for the sympathy you heeped on me when my world turned upside down - however, there is no reason why you should quit. Fight through the pain like i did - adapt your tactics to your new reality...

Do you want me to give you a few tips?

13lackGu4rd · #2 July 2nd, 2010, 09:40 AM

I can't even tell if this was cynicism or not, in any case it was pathetic! no I didn't "save and quit" I'm fully capable of getting my turns in... moreover "save and quit" wouldn't account for casting things I didn't do(like the dispels).

now, let me ask you something. how can I "adapt my tactics" when I'm not in control of my turn? if this was simply a manner of in game actions than it wouldn't have come to that, but seeing that it's an outside interference the situation is clearly different! adapting tactics is very good as long as you're actually in control of your own actions, this is clearly not the case here! heck, throw an Arcane Corruption at me to bring horrors with every spell I cast, with that I can deal with, cast Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together and forge 50 dead cheap items every turn! I can deal with that as well! but when you take away my ability to actually play my turns, not that's different... nothing I can do about it!

Amadamus · #3 July 2nd, 2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

I can't even tell if this was cynicism or not, in any case it was pathetic! no I didn't "save and quit" I'm fully capable of getting my turns in... moreover "save and quit" wouldn't account for casting things I didn't do(like the dispels).

now, let me ask you something. how can I "adapt my tactics" when I'm not in control of my turn? if this was simply a manner of in game actions than it wouldn't have come to that, but seeing that it's an outside interference the situation is clearly different! adapting tactics is very good as long as you're actually in control of your own actions, this is clearly not the case here! heck, throw an Arcane Corruption at me to bring horrors with every spell I cast, with that I can deal with, cast Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together and forge 50 dead cheap items every turn! I can deal with that as well! but when you take away my ability to actually play my turns, not that's different... nothing I can do about it!

Pathetic? thats not very nice... and by the way its Astral Corruption.

Look the premise of your gripe is that some dastardly villain has hacked your game. I suggested that it was possible that you committed an error, but instead you you would rather accuse other players of cheating, that is poor form.

Hmmm, i think i used that line as well 'nothing i can do about it' when all my warlocks died to BoT...

The fact of the matter is, it is more likely that you stuffed up your turn, but instead of considering this possibility you would rather point the finger.

13lackGu4rd · #4 July 2nd, 2010, 10:02 AM

see, the thing is, I didn't stuff my turn! I know fully well what I did and didn't do, and if it was simply a matter of wrong scripting than I would have just moved on! but it wasn't! why on earth would I specifically cast dispel 4 times and target each of my globals in each time? heck, why would I even cast dispel in the first place? if that Mother Oak of Man bothered me so much I'd have dispelled it long ago... also why on earth would I lie about summoning the royalties, wishing, etc and why would I give up on a perfectly fine and probably still winning position if it wasn't for something actually extreme?

now, stuff your poor warlocks and BoT already, that's something in game which can be dealt with. I won't open up that drama again, but if you still don't know how you should have countered it after all the discussions you invoked on it and the answers you received, than the problem is 100% yours... so go ahead, put up Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together, and equip like 20 thugs/SCs each turn for dirt cheap and gaining most of your gems back from the nexus. at least it's something in game which means it can be handled in game, and if not than you won fair and square. this is not the situation here, and I'm repeating this for 1 last time!

learn to read, work on your reading comprehension, I don't know what, but please start to understand what you're reading! I really didn't use difficult language, and it seems like you're just trying to piss me off by repeating your nonsense even after I already replied to it, heck I replied on it even before you made your first post!

Amadamus · #5 July 2nd, 2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

see, the thing is, I didn't stuff my turn! I know fully well what I did and didn't do, and if it was simply a matter of wrong scripting than I would have just moved on! but it wasn't! why on earth would I specifically cast dispel 4 times and target each of my globals in each time? heck, why would I even cast dispel in the first place? if that Mother Oak of Man bothered me so much I'd have dispelled it long ago... also why on earth would I lie about summoning the royalties, wishing, etc and why would I give up on a perfectly fine and probably still winning position if it wasn't for something actually extreme?

now, stuff your poor warlocks and BoT already, that's something in game which can be dealt with. I won't open up that drama again, but if you still don't know how you should have countered it after all the discussions you invoked on it and the answers you received, than the problem is 100% yours... so go ahead, put up Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together, and equip like 20 thugs/SCs each turn for dirt cheap and gaining most of your gems back from the nexus. at least it's something in game which means it can be handled in game, and if not than you won fair and square. this is not the situation here, and I'm repeating this for 1 last time!

learn to read, work on your reading comprehension, I don't know what, but please start to understand what you're reading! I really didn't use difficult language, and it seems like you're just trying to piss me off by repeating your nonsense even after I already replied to it, heck I replied on it even before you made your first post!

But my Warlocks....

For someone who didn't want to open up that drama again, you sure didn't try very hard.

I understand that something has gone wrong with your turn.

I understand you are annoyed about it

I understand that instead of considering your own potential error in the matter you would rather rant and rave and blame outside interference.

I understand that your pretender had a password so there is no chance of someone else doing the job on you.

The only thing i don't understand is why would you dispel your own globals??

Gandalf Parker · #6 July 2nd, 2010, 10:04 AM

Actually, it does appear in the logs that certain units took steps to specifically undo their earlier actions.
It does not appear to be just "lack of actions" as would be true for a botched turn.

Amadamus · #7 July 2nd, 2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

Actually, it does appear in the logs that certain units took steps to specifically undo their earlier actions.
It does not appear to be just "lack of actions" as would be true for a botched turn.

So does that mean that there possibly is an infiltrator?

Gandalf Parker · #8 July 2nd, 2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

Actually, it does appear in the logs that certain units took steps to specifically undo their earlier actions.
It does not appear to be just "lack of actions" as would be true for a botched turn.

So does that mean that there possibly is an infiltrator?

Yes, it seems someone may have purposely taken action that might kill the game.

Im still considering on the AI request. Im not sure if seeking a sub to step in will allow the game to properly continue or not.

Amadamus · #9 July 2nd, 2010, 10:44 AM

Well thats a bit crap... sort of screws the game somewhat.

Anyways to catch the culprit? Does the server record the IP of those who connect in the logs? If it is a player of another nation wouldn't be hard to match them up with their previous logins.

Gandalf Parker · #10 July 2nd, 2010, 10:50 AM

I dont have IP logging on by default. At times I have over 100 Dom3 games running on the server. Just logging the webserver, ftp, ssh, telnet, mail, etc is enough of a load.

But when something like this comes up, it is possible for me to start logging IPs for a particular Dom3 game. I will be watching this one.

Its also possible to insure that only one player can see a nation, or turn in turns for a nation, even if the password is known. Its not something I would turn on for every player in every game but is available for problem situations.

But this is all just discussion of server options. It does appear that its too late to be of much help for THIS game.