MP: STACKERS, newbie game, (started)

[Amadamus]

The bugger now is that there is the nasty spectre of suspicion hanging over the game. Personally, i think this kills it - BG should get the win by default, not a very satisfying way to win i admit.

Shame...

[Gandalf Parker]

It is ALSO an option to roll back to that turn, allow BG to input a new turn, and re-host.
But that can screw up things really badly. Anyone who has already downloaded this turn has to delete it
On the other hand, if the alternative is just calling the game......

But I will leave that up to you people. I will abide by a general decision this one time.

[Amadamus]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

It is ALSO an option to roll back to that turn, allow BG to input a new turn, and re-host.
But that can screw up things really badly. Anyone who has already downloaded this turn has to delete it
On the other hand, if the alternative is just calling the game......

But I will leave that up to you people. I will abide by a general decision this one time.

There is that option, but it is the actual act itself which sullies the vibe of the contest. Plus, even though it is unlikely, there is always the suspicion of it happening again this time more subtlely.

see what others think.

[Squirrelloid]

Seriously, the only logical choices are to rollback or call the game. Rlyeh's position is ruined by deliberate sabotage. No one should sub into that position. This is far worse than a game bug.

BG may even have the .2h file he submitted (assuming he hasn't saved after looking at the new turn), so it may be pretty easy to re-upload.

I will note that there's no way for the hacker to look at BG's submitted orders, so subtle sabotage would be hard. He can't just change things - he gets the .trn file and can input his own orders. He can't get the submitted .2h file unless he's actually hacked the server itself.

[Verjigorm]

I don't understand why someone would want to cheat at a strategy game like this. The purpose is to learn and develop strategy. If one's only goal is to win so that one can have some sort of "Wingasm" or for Internet notoriety on a low-population forum board then that person a giant douchebag and they fail at life.

Why? Because such a person is not smart enough to handle situations on their own, but they want people to think that they are. They don't seek to become better able to succeed, only to pretend to succeed, and such a person is likely to be the same in real life as they are in fake life.

In closing.

I vote to roll back the turn(s), even though my stake in the game has been reduced to near nothing.

Don't play douchey....

[Nauquan]

Bugger this.

I knock off his pretender, after chasing him around for 5 turns.
No squad of teleporters, magic dueling could have helped.

His interception army may of may not have hit my squad of thirteen mermen raiding his backyard - not a big deal since he hasn't moved towards me for the last three turns. This turn was no more critical than the last one.

Now he knows my plans, and to top it off he implies that I sabotaged him.

If anyone sabotaged him, I strongly condem the action. Doing a roll-back seems to be the only remedy. However, a roll-back also gives R'leyh an advantage since he has already seen what I intend to do, and the specific capabilities of the units that I have.

So Blackguard what do you suggest to make this equitable?

[Nauquan]

Furthermore, I find the tone of your messages insulting. I have forgone responding to your continual Ashdod bashing, and personal insults towards myself and other players. I have treated you politely and have not provoked, insulted, or mistreated you in any way. If we continue this game, I would appreciate it if you would treat all players and Gandolf with more courtesy.

[Nauquan]

Man I am still angry. Can you tell?

Consider the blunt nature of the sabotage. If I did have access to your turns, I would simply mine them for information, and maximize the actions of my units.

I am insulted that you think that I am so unsubtle as to commit such obvious sabotage.

[13lackGu4rd]

Nauquan, I didn't point my finger specifically at you, all I said was that you had the most to gain from this sabotage act, which is true. with that said, I also mentioned Amadamus(for hating me after the BoT) and people who haven't said anything for a long time, as well as anybody else. I don't really know anybody who plays here, so I can't say who is or isn't capable of such an unsubtle action, as you put it, so I can't rule out anybody either...

as for solutions, as far as I'm concerned there is *no* solution, at least as long as we don't know who sabotaged(and well, probably spied) my turn(s) and how we can stop it from happening again. I doubt we can do that, so the game is pretty much over for me... what you guys do from here is entirely up to you...

[Nauquan]

When you say "I don't want to point any fingers" and then go on to mention some specific players, that is pointing fingers.

In the same vein if someone say's "No offense but ...." and then says something offensive, it is still offensive.