Preponderance 2 [epic team game returns!]

[DrPraetorious]

I have to assume that the partnerless player would immediately quit , leaving the area occupied by 1 AI instead of 2.

And if it were occupied by 2 AI players, they could be set as allies in the .map file, which none of us have seen anyway.

So that's my proposal, anyway. Since only Ironhawk has access to the absent team's identity, and he (understandably!) does not want to recruit a replacement, I see no alternative.

Originally Posted by Calahan

If it comes to that, then probably better off just starting now with 23 teams (since I think the game settings only give a maximum number of teams in the game, rather than a minimum. So it can be started with 23 teams without a hiccup. Although I could be wrong on this as I haven't tested doing that with a llamaserver game, and also maybe the fixed starts might cause a bug).

This gives the partnerless player the starting area to themselves, rather than making them actually fight against an AI nation for it.

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by DrPraetorious

I have to assume that the partnerless player would immediately quit , leaving the area occupied by 1 AI instead of 2.

And if it were occupied by 2 AI players, they could be set as allies in the .map file, which none of us have seen anyway.

So that's my proposal, anyway. Since only Ironhawk has access to the absent team's identity, and he (understandably!) does not want to recruit a replacement, I see no alternative.

Personally I am strongly against starting with 2 CPUs. That would throw a big monkey wrench into Zeldor's and Ironhawk's carefully balanced game rules and the map. Considering the cutthroat nature of this game, having CPU as a neighbor (actually 2 CPUs) will give some players huge advantage over the rest.

It doesn't matter that only IH has access to players directory, any of us can recruit players (by posting on the forum threads or directly in IRC), we just need to tell them that if they are interested, they need to contact IH who will have them added to the game - he has agreed to do it, he just doesn't want to deal with recruitment/advertisement process.

[earcaraxe]

it would hurt the anonimity principle, i think thats the main reason they havent try to find a replacement.

[Ironhawk]

I have been contacted by 1 of the 2 derelict players (the one who already submitted). I informed them that they had a couple of hours to motivate their teammate or be replaced. However, given their track record I am just going ahead with the assumption that that will not happen.

Additionally, I dont know if you all advertised or they were reading this thread, BUT I was contacted by two players who want to replace that team. I have responded to them that it would be acceptable and am waiting to hear back.

[Ironhawk]

As you may have noticed we are down to 22/24 pretenders because I booted the pretender from the derelict team. The replacement team has been in touch with me and they will be submitting their pretenders as soon as possible with a max of 24hrs.

To be completely safe, make sure that your pretender is still on the list and did not get mistakenly removed.

[Ironhawk]

The replacement team has asked to revision one of their nations: Kailasa -> LA CTis. This would make their team total the same, which is fine. But it also means that it could have effected other teams picks during the original selection process so I cannot just allow it on my own.

As such, I have said it would only be acceptable if no other players object. If you object, say so now.

[militarist]

hmmm... kaliasa joined prep2. I though they were going to replace this nation by LA Ctis.
It looks like it's alpine Joe from ex-team, as he sent today a message in lunar sea.

[Baalz]

Don't let ghoul annoy you, he has a tendency to be abrasively self centered. Thanks for the work you're putting into admining a game you're not playing and shame, shame, shame on the players who are making it more work than it should be. The rest of us really appreciate the effort you're putting in!

[Zeldor]

Really, you don't see that your teammate cannot submit pretender for over a week? It looks like you did not even tell Ironhawk you have a problem with contacting him. It looks like you made no effort to get a chance to look for another teammate. Ironhawk is game admin, he is responsible for smooth running of the game. He is not responsible for looking subs, contactinc your teammate instead of you. Game got postponed a lot already, so we are all happy that he is doing everything to start it ASAP. Somehow there was enough time for PMs from Ironhawk about missing pretenders, posts here nagging people, my post about needed replacement for one player or whole team and 2 people forming new team and volunteering to play it.

[militarist]

Ghoul...,Joining a game where 23 other people +admin are going to take part is a kind of responsibility. There are different ways to manage this responsibility, to minimize effect from your negative (or lack of positive) behavior on others. As for Alpine Joe - partially it's your bad luck,that you took him as a partner, but it's a team game and a team responsibility. If you felt some moment that you can't be responsible for your partner as he behaves in some crazy way, you should kick him off from the team (with blessing from game admin) and find another partner. Yourself. You say here that "everything was right until IH threw you out unexpectedly "...Do you read game threads at all? DO you visit IRC channel at least sometimes? I would definitely call what IH did as an action, which was highly expected by 22 players. Nothing personal, but you really should manage responsibility you took joining the game. Just next time be more careful about others then about yourself. You will earn some good karma this way and maybe it will give you a better teammate next time.