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Old January 24th, 2025, 08:10 PM

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Hungary in July 23 received first of H225M Caracal https://vpk.name/en/747323_hungary-r...licopters.html (French unit 520). Reportedly can be armed with 12.7mm machine guns and 20 mm Nexter NC-621 cannons and launchers of 70 mm rockets.

Czech Republic in Aug 23 shown their first AH-1Z Viper. They're meant to be armed with Hellfire and APKWS. It also got first UH-1Y Venom by that time.
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Yes. I saw the short shot of it. I will add a slat version

found a photo


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Poland officially retried Mi-14PL Sea helicopters in August 2025 so they were last seen on Parade during celebration of polish army day 15th of August here video 44min long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoRFEDZmVYo you can see this helicopters last time. Possible should be unviable since September 2025. Link to article on Ukraine site https://militarnyi.com/en/news/polan...-last-mi-14pl/ where is also mentioned replacement AW-101 .

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There are no Mi-14 in the Polish OOB. It's in Syria, Russia, Vietnam, Libya and North Korea

Apparently it should also be in Poland, Georgia and Ukraine

It should also not be in service now with Russia but it is in the game..... it should also have been in ther East German OOB and these

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Bulgaria

Cuba

East Germany

Ethiopia

Germany

Russia

South Yemen

Soviet Union

Yugoslavia

Pakistan


Finding the start end dates should be SUCH fun

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I try help with some data let's start with

Poland
First six Helicopters Mi-14PŁ arrived in 1981 no month mentioned
in 1983 next six and in 1984 four in variant Mi-14PS. Two were lost so in 1990 two additional used ones were buy from Soviet Union. Around 2000-2005 Polish Mi-14 both variants were modernised to Mi-14PŁMK with new torpedo's overhaul of avionics and new system for fights with submarines. First they were plans to retried them in 2017-2018 but they serve until September 2025.

DDR
First nine Mi-14PŁ delivered in years 1979-1981. then six Mi-14BT in 1984 after unification with west the serve briefly in Bundeswehr 14 machines on lost earlier in DDR times. They were retried in end of 1991. Two sold to USA in 1993 rest to museums.

Libya
To Libya were delivered 36 machines in variant Mi-14PŁ don't know date but must be after 1975 when this helicopters were introduced in USSR. Probably in the same time like in DDR? They were still in usage in 2007 https://www.airhistory.net/photo/518035/LC1413

Bulgaria
Introduced in 1979 and probably still in usage or like in Poland just retried page with Bulgarian Mi-14 data https://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/bul...g-nv2-home.htm
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Wiki / FlightGlobal

"Out of the almost 300 Mi-14s produced at Kazan Helicopters between 1973 and 1986, it is estimated that just 44 examples remain in active service"

https://www.flightglobal.com/russian...119309.article
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on russian version site of wikipedia are dates when this helicopters were in service and how many is still in usage
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8-14
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Interesting can-o-worms this opened up

The entries that are in this game for this thing probably go back to the very beginning and the passenger capacity is much too high which means adjusting the carry capacity then checking sceanrios to see if they are used and what they are carring

I know it can be done........... I just have to pry open that segment of my memory that has not been pried open in a long time to remember how.

EDIT With Andys help I figured it out, ran the SQL to see if the mi-14 was used in any scenarios and it was NOT so the corrections that have to be made will not involve scenarios

And some new versions


This has not been a good year for both Andy and I medically. There are a lot of things I used to know and do automatically...........not so much now. It's like I have to set new pathways for certain memories
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Well Poland was correct in not having the Mi-14PL/Mi-14 PL 'Strike' because they are the NAVAL variants of the Mi-8 which is the land version as used by the Russian military initially.

As I believe Don mentioned here we go again with legacy issues as I would come across years ago when working through the ABRAMS throughout the whole USA OOB. It was so bad I couldn't even get it into the Fastboat Patch Thread there was so much all the work was done within the MBT Thread when Suhiir asked me to take on the USMC M1A1 FEP.

Anyway we cleared a handful of slots along the way. And now we can do the same for all the other countries including Russia that has them (Mi-14PL/Mi-14 PL 'Strike').

About those other countries including Russia, they all have one thing in common they're all on major bodies of water the Baltic, Black and South China Seas, Caribbean, Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.

The Mi-14-PL early in my Submarine career could've represented my worst nightmare-why?
Mi-14PL (protivo-lodoctinyi) ('Haze-A'): Basic ASW version; four crew; large undernose radome; OKA-2 retractable sonar in starboard rear of planing bottom, forward of two probable sonobuoy or signal flare chutes; APM-60 towed Magnetic Anomaly Detection (MAD) bird stowed against rear of fuselage pod (moved to lower position on some aircraft); weapons include one AT-1 ASW or APR-2 torpedo, one 1kT 'Skat' nuclear depth bomb or eight PLAB-250, PLAB-50-64 or PLAB-MK depth charges or OMAB-25-120 or OMAB-MK in enclosed bay in bottom of hull; VAS-5M-3 liferaft (in all versions).

Your head would "spin" knowing how many naval tactical nukes were in the Med at any one time. The above info is from ref. 1.

Concerning the Mi-14PL "Strike" the Kh-23 (AS-7 Kerry) was ONLY used on these helicopters for anti-ship operations.

Land use by the Russian AF was on both the Mig-21/24.

My further knowledge of this platform and weapons (And others.) comes from my several months of operating in the Med in the Summer of'87.
https://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/mi-14.php
https://everything.explained.today/Kh-23_Grom/
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...il_mi8_hip.htm
(From next to bottom of the ref.-"Mil has also produced a shore-based Mi-8 derivative as the Mi-14 Haze for a variety of naval roles including anti-submarine warfare, search and rescue and mine countermeasures. The most significant current operator is the Russian naval aviation.")
https://aviationnews.eu/news/2025/08...es-of-service/


Merry Christmas! Extra slots along with some aspirin with lots of water.

If I would've presented this helo to Don for SUBMISSION he would've kicked my !?!

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