Danish TO & E

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by Palle

Will try Don, will try ;-)

Though my prime motivation is accuracy. I thought (lazily), to do the research, then let you guys do the work. But I am glad to help as much as I can.

There is one thing I cannot do- or have not tried. Adding picks. Cause the "Archer" SP Gun is not included in any OB yet I cannot steal its pic and use for the expected arrival of that splendid Weapons System. In that respect I am probably too dense to even follow instructions (cause it includes modifying pics before adding right?). So there is a task for you. But then, it should be in the Swedish OOB anyway. I have also had to improvise and use the nearest approximate for the Eagle IV and GD G270 (Eagle I and German Wolf Utility Vehicle respectively). The GD G270's LSW is also mounted facing rearwards; how to model that?

Archer as in modern SP arty? - see Swedish unit #416 BW L52 Archer.

(There is also the WW2 archer SP-AT, in Jordan OOB amongst others)

Cheers
Andy

[DRG]

I've already put the Archer SP arty into the Danish OOB for 2013. If you have a better date let me know. I've put in a new Archer pic as well

Don

[Palle]

I may not have the latest version of the game ATM. How do I transfer my modded OoBs to a new version? I am not too keen on starting all over.

Thanks for your responsiveness.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by Palle

I may not have the latest version of the game ATM. How do I transfer my modded OoBs to a new version? I am not too keen on starting all over.

Thanks for your responsiveness.

Manually re-editing is likely to be your only solution. Especially if 'your' units, weapons and formations were overwrites of the existing line items in the OOB rather than new stuff placed in free lines, leaving the stock lines unchanged.

Or, you can simply ignore the updates and continue to develop your own OOB as a stand-alone development thread of its own (using the OOB swapper utility of course if playing PBEM). In that case, you may want to check whatever was done in the new stock OOB, perhaps.

If you wrote a new AI pick list then you are of course completely on your own. (This may not matter if your new OOB is for human only usage).

Maintenance of any third party edited OOBs is in any case entirely up to that person, not us.

cheers
Andy

[Palle]

Hey Andy, you are fast as usual.

I have largely put in new lines to remedy the various holes in the Danish OoB, but I believe that there are a few where I have corrected mistakes as well. I cannot recall. And I am too inept to do more than that, but that I can and has done. How much of my numerous quibbles did you include?

And, correct me if I am wrong, if I want the various new units you guys have added, the Archer for example, I have to update to next version and redo manually?

Again, thanks for being responsive to quibbles.

[Pibwl]

My 3 cents:

008 M4A3-E4 Sherman - according to US naming, M4A3E4

009 Humber Scout - better quality picture is 23592. It might be worth considering to create new icon - current is Daimler Scout Car (Humber had closed, asymetrical roof). Same for unit 213

(BTW: is there a way to see icons apart from Mobhack?)

110 Bell 47D - correct pic is 9006 (current is Alouette). It should have rather carry=2.

111 Agusta 47J - correct pic is 34902 (current is Alouette). It should have rather carry=3.

Regards
Michal

[Mobhack]

The only answer would be - look at the new release whenever it arrives, and see what needs doing.

Andy

[Palle]

I have now upgraded and to my satisfaction I notice that you have listened to my various quibbles. Thanks.

There are some still though at first sight.

-All Danes in Afghanistan are equipped with NV & PRR, I do not know about the radio rating of the PRR, but should they not all have either 30 or 40 in Vision? I have created a variant of standard Danish units to reflect it called "DANCON XXXX" (XXXX being the Engineer, Scout, Inf, mmg, Etc.) and at a highr price.
-The m95 Rifle is being phased out and exchanged with the better m08, beginning with parts of the DANCON in 2008. Then more and more. I think I saw on the Army's # at Youtube that even more will get it next year.
-Danish snipers use the Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Magnum, the Jægers use the H&K MSG90, Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Magnum or the AW50 as they please.
-Some Danish Engineers have m82 AntiMaterial Rifles for detonating Mines.
-The CV9035 IKK is an IFV (IKK = IFV), I see it only as a support unit in game while the mentioned Life Guard unit and apparently their equivalent in the Guards Hussars (the guys in Armadillo drive them), uses them as APCs.
-The squads of the mentioned units have been changed to 6-man size to enable the CV9035 to carry them. It might be 7, I will have to look into it a bit more.

All this is not reflected in the game (yet), I will look if there is more.

Apart from that I am pleased to see you listening to helpfull corrections.

Thanks.

[DRG]

I found this when I loaded up my list and dealt with it but felt the need to comment so we don't go through this again......

Originally Posted by Palle

-The m95 Rifle is being phased out and exchanged with the better m08, beginning with parts of the DANCON in 2008. Then more and more. I think I saw on the Army's # at Youtube that even more will get it next year.

The "m95" already gets the highest rating for an infantry rifle and I am not adding a duplicate with another name then building a whole new set of infantry units to carry it. What it may be renamed to is simply "5.56 Rifle" because the micro detail naming of rifles etc that a lot of people would like is really getting old. A rifle is a rifle is a rifle unless it has optics then it gets that rating and all those with the optics rating ( acc=6 ) do the same job no matter what they are named and we already have over 35,000 units in this game to keep track of

Originally Posted by Palle

-Danish snipers use the Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Magnum, the Jægers use the H&K MSG90, Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Magnum or the AW50 as they please.

The existing Heavy sniper rifle already has the highest hvy sniper rifle rating and one is good enough..see above

Originally Posted by Palle

-Some Danish Engineers have m82 Anti Material Rifles for detonating Mines.

and the game code still needs to be fixed to make that work and when it does it will still only be snipers classed units who can do this so next release buy a heavy sniper for your engineers

Originally Posted by Palle

-The CV9035 IKK is an IFV (IKK = IFV), I see it only as a support unit in game while the mentioned Life Guard unit and apparently their equivalent in the Guards Hussars (the guys in Armadillo drive them), uses them as APCs..

REALLY ?? You don't see formations 206, 207 and 208 that use that vehicle as a APC/IFV ?? Or perhaps the "problem" here is you hung up on the unit class name being "support" It's named "support APC" because we cannot name all APC/IFV classes simply "APC" or "IFV" and , "light support" , is just a name as well. That's an APC/IFV clone class and that's what it's being used for with those formations so your assumption it's not being used is incorrect. We could have used the "Hvy APC" class for that unit but it's irrelevant.. they both do the same job in the game


Don

[Palle]

The "m95" already gets the highest rating for an infantry rifle and I am not adding a duplicate with another name then building a whole new set of infantry units to carry it. What it may be renamed to is simply "5.56 Rifle" because the micro detail naming of rifles etc that a lot of people would like is really getting old. A rifle is a rifle is a rifle unless it has optics then it gets that rating and all those with the optics rating ( acc=6 ) do the same job no matter what they are named and we already have over 35,000 units in this game to keep track of

Fair enough, and it does sound like a good idea to just rename them "NATO 5.55 Rifle" or something along those lines for all the NATO nations that does not use their own version (SA-80, FAMAS, G-36, ETC).




The existing Heavy sniper rifle already has the highest hvy sniper rifle rating and one is good enough..see above

The Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Magnum is already in the game as far as I can determine, the Finnish 8.6mm TKIV, and if there are any AW50s in Denmark they are used by the Jægers.



and the game code still needs to be fixed to make that work and when it does it will still only be snipers classed units who can do this so next release buy a heavy sniper for your engineers


Fair enough too.



REALLY ?? You don't see formations 206, 207 and 208 that use that vehicle as a APC/IFV ?? Or perhaps the "problem" here is you hung up on the unit class name being "support" It's named "support APC" because we cannot name all APC/IFV classes simply "APC" or "IFV" and , "light support" , is just a name as well. That's an APC/IFV clone class and that's what it's being used for with those formations so your assumption it's not being used is incorrect. We could have used the "Hvy APC" class for that unit but it's irrelevant.. they both do the same job in the game


Don