No Diplo EA Game - No Wankers Allowed - Game Over, Baalz/Abysia Wins

[Calahan]

I will hesitantly say that I think we're in business. I just re-uploaded our map for this game (changing all the file names), and tried starting a game with it (MapTester4 for those interested), and this time it did start correctly, and sent out turns files like it did in the good old days

I will test it again to make sure, but if that test goes ok as well, then I think we are on safer ground to go for a third attempt by re-uploading Pretenders again. (as we've sent some scouts out this time to test the land )

[Aethyr]

Calahan, we all owe you a big "thank you!" for working so hard to get this game up and running.

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by Aethyr

Calahan, we all owe you a big "thank you!" for working so hard to get this game up and running.

Don't thank me yet as you might jink things

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@ All - Further update

I have created a clone of our game on the llamaserver (MapTester5) which did successfully start, has appeared on the running games list as it should, and it sent out the turn files for turn 1 as expected. (I got properly spammed with new turn files )

I will now go through the process of checking each turn to ensure the starts match the province #'s intended, to make sure the map uploaded correctly more than anything. If all that checks out, then I will re-create the game again for you to all upload Pretenders to.

(I will leave the MapTester5 game on the server until the game starts though, as if all else fails, I'll just un-start that game and in theory we can use that as the chassis. I think )

Will post another update soon.

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Edit - Not a Welcome Update

Houston, we have a problem. Just checked the starts, and two of them are right next to each other But they do match the starts in the .map file, which means the map needs to be re-done (provinces 258+264 are the culprits for those who downloaded the .map file). I hoped someone would have spotted or troubleshooted that while I was away. Oh well.

So the game starting problems seem to be solved for the moment, but I will have to examine the map file closer and see if the error is just a typo or not. If it is, then it's likely an easy fix. If not, someone (or me basically) will need to balance all the starts again. Which will sadly push the start ETA back a fair bit


This has already taken too much of my time this morning though, so I likely won't be able to get on the problem until much later today.

[Ragnars Wolves]

I am in that Land of Legends Map game and they modified it a bit to have 9 fixed starts (1 Water). All starts have 4 provinces, 1 farmland 1 mountain etc except 2 nations (and they got 1 extra province).

I know that map is too small for your game but you mentioned it and I thought I would just give you some info on it.

The guy who did the mod (we may have a new budding mod maker among us)is attackdrone if you need some info.

The name of the game is Kindanew.

[Calahan]

I've had a chance to look closely at the map, and the starts at 290+269 are adjacent as well. So the problem with the starts at 264+258 wasn't just a typo. (so even if the previous attempts to start the game had started, neither would have been any use to us)

This means the map is unusable in it's current form, so it will basically have to be re-done from scratch for 17+2. I personally won't have time to do this until Sunday at the earliest, so if someone wants to volunteer to get it done before then, please be my guest and step forward

Or

The Yomi player did not report-in in time for the start of the most recent attempt to get this game going. So I am starting to edge strongly towards booting the Yomi player and going with just 18 players. This has the huge advantage (I hope*) of allowing us to use the July 2008 version of the Alexander map, as that has pre-set starts for 16+3 (which I'll edit slightly for 16+2). Or the Asia Twist map which also has pre-sets for 16+3. (again it should be another easy edit job for 16+2)


* I say I hope, as this will mean uploading another map + image file, when we are back in the lap of fate with regards how happy the llamserver will be.


I'm also slightly unsure about creating the game (to allow Pretender uploads) until the map is sorted, as maybe changing the map after the initial game creation is what is causing the problem (and haven't got time right now to test this theory)


I'll hopefully get back to you a little later with a decision. (although I must admit the more I think of it, the more attractive the option of starting with 18 is looking. Since the Yomi player did use up all of their credit by not uploading their Pretender in the three days the 2nd game was in the waiting for Pretenders stage)

[Kobal2]

@Calahan, Executor : would it be a dick move for me to drop out at this point ? A fat load of work landed on my lap more or less unexpectedly and I'm not sure I can make time to play 4 games at once in the short term, least not with much attention.

I obviously don't want to take a steaming dump on a game you guys have put so much effort in to get going, so if my dropping'd cheese you off I'll figure something out.

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by Kobal2

@Calahan, Executor : would it be a dick move for me to drop out at this point ? A fat load of work landed on my lap more or less unexpectedly and I'm not sure I can make time to play 4 games at once in the short term, least not with much attention.

I obviously don't want to take a steaming dump on a game you guys have put so much effort in to get going, so if my dropping'd cheese you off I'll figure something out.

I wouldn't say that's the biggest disaster in the world. And I think it's certainly better for you to drop out now rather than have problems submitting turns and start staling later in the game due to RL time constraints (plus the affect it will have on your commitments to other games if you take too many on)


There is still the issue with the Yomi player (Mr/Mrs. Yomi player, if you are reading this, then please contact me asap, and please do not post in the thread regarding whether or not you are playing for obvious reasons.) so if you do wish to drop out, your 'life' will likely be used to save that of the Yomi player.

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@ All

I'm currently in the middle of testing the map I uploaded, and submitting 18 Pretenders to see if the llamaerver is happy to use it. If all goes well, then I'll un-create the game, after which it should be all systems go for a third attempt at starting.

[Calahan]

Ok everyone, I have re-created the game. The name of the game is now StillNoWankersAllowed (had to rename it since you can't use names of previous games due to how the llamaserver archives work).

I have also tested the game by submitting 18 Pretenders (16L + 2W) and starting the game. I checked all the starts, and they were all correct, and there was no Houdini tricks pulled this time either. I then uncreated the game, and deleted all the Pretenders. (and that is where the game currently stands)


So, can I please ask everyone to once again upload their Pretenders for a third attempt at getting this game started. Taking note of the new game name StillNoWankersAllowed (no spaces or underscores).

Thank you all for your patience while the problems with the map and llamaserver were being ironed out.

[Calahan]

Just one Pretender to go for the game to start (already PM-ed the missing player), so hopefully this game will get going before the end of the day (I have a back-up plan if the player doesn't show)


Also, I forgot to mention that you will all need to make a duplicate copy of the Alexander.tga file, and rename it AlexanderNWA.tga, in order to access the turns. I haven't made any changes to the image file, but the Alexander.tga image file on the llamaserver seems to be bugged (which is possibly why the starts failed) so I had to upload a new one. And had to rename it for the llamaserver to accept it.

For the computer challenged, I've attached a renamed image file that you should unzip into your map folder.

[Aethyr]

Calahan, when I try to unzip the file I get two error messages: 1) "no fles to extract"; and 2) "Unknown method in AlexanderNWA.tga.

Suggestions?