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Old May 19th, 2012, 03:58 AM
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I probably should see a Dr. as I can't even read a book without reading a passage and it coming back to a topic in the Forum.
The topic French flamethrowers. The result after many hours on the net have also been posted here, basically couldn't find anything except WW I use. So I read this book changed my search perimeters around it and what I read and guess what? Yeah, you guessed it of course they had them and it looks like from 1943 with the Free French units until possibly 1980 when France among others signed a treaty banning their use, see ref below. So for now I can say the French used the U.S. M2 Flamethrower when it also become available from 1943 - 1960 for sure.
The book HELL IN A VERY SMALL PLACE THE SIEGE OF DIEN BIEN PHU by Bernard Fall 1966. First mentioned them on Pg. 79 2nd full Para. "On February 6, Lt. Col. Langlais and GAP 2, the 2nd BT, the 1st Battalion of the 4th Moroccan Infantry, a Foreign Legion flamethrower detachment, and a platoon with explosive charges from the 31st Engineering Battalion assaulted the highest mountain in the immediate vicinity of Dien Bien Phu-Hill 754-781."

Also the book will have me looking into the U.S. 155mm and the
M24 CHAFFEE tanks the French used in Indochina and was thus available to the French Army. And a Battery was made up of four guns at that time in regards to the 105mm or 155mm if this needs a quick looking at in the OOB.

While I'm at it this is my plan for the 105mm: 1. Contact in writing Ft. Sill home to the USA Artillery School seeking their help and 2. I had an idea at work, what would happen if I searched using French? I'll try it. Regardless I have three dates in mind to purpose based I what I've been able to pull together on this thus far for the next Patch.

So far PITA is still a flat bread...so far!!
Note the last sentence of the ref. in regards to other countries, more issues?. This is represenative of a handful of others found.
http://christopher-eger.suite101.com...thrower-a73015


Anyway I hope you all have a great weekend and I need to hit the rack-one more to go!!

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The 105mm M101 was mostly out of service with the french army by the early 1990s, it was retained for several more years (up until late 1990s max) as a stored pre-position weapon for intervention forces in several french bases in Africa + some for instructional use in France as long as remaining ammo stocks lasted. I know that the french marines had a mixed battery of 155mm BF50 and 105mm M101 in use in Djibouti in 1995 but 120mm mortars soon became plentifull due to french army downsizing.
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I had thrown out the mid nineties also in Africa thinking it was the Legion though. I have a "feeler" out to Ft. Sill that I hope leads to an answer. But the UK's Royal Artillery Museum thought they were pulled sooner, I believe I posted that email in here. So I and on behave of Don as well, welcome you to our PITA on this topic.

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I *thought* I had all French 105's ending 12/94 as a "best guess" but I see now one unit is 12/94, one is 12/65 and one is 12/2020 so I suspect I only hit the save button after the first change. However there are picklist implicates that need to be investigated as well but "mid 90's " seems to be safe though typically we get "better" info a week after a patch is released......


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Pat. I've taken them OOS 12/96 but if you find better info I'll use it

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Maybe it could help

For the 50's to 90's era
Infantry
http://daniel.rabbe.free.fr/organisation/section.htm

Armor
http://daniel.rabbe.free.fr/organisation/peloton.htm

I have TTA document from 1999 just need to make the transfert from my old computer
Section d'infanterie (Infantry platoon)
Section d'appuie (Support platoon)
Section Recon Regimentaire (Regimental Recon Platoon)
+ other doc about AMX10, Leclerc regiments
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