MP: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]

[mattyburn7]

I'm wondering if Jolly Roger got caught up with LL staling and was waiting to hear back. He's been pretty responsive in the other games. If you hear from Jolly Roger let me know and I'll make the switch for Pangaea

[mattyburn7]

I postponed another 48 hours to get the new Pangaea player setup.

[parone]

dont like your kill ration, rev. how'd you survive?

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by parone

dont like your kill ration, rev. how'd you survive?

It got a lot worse later on. On turn 23 Atlantis blew through a large defense force 400+ strong in one of my fortresses that was next to my capital, where I only killed a handful of his soldiers before being massacred.



You can read more about it on my AAR at http://devnada.wordpress.com/bsod/, although I'm only on turn 20. However, I should have the next couple of turns up in a few days.

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,

finally I took command for Pangaea as replacement player.

"Preserve the nature and pray to the one and only god !" angel

Thanks for taking me in.

Cheers, Klaus

[Russian_Comrade]

About Ermor's survival - it was quite simple. I went for his capital, got defeated, lost ~30-40% of my army because of skelespam from ~10 death mages, got another ~30% starved and plauged because I miscalculated. My blessed troops are really difficult to replace, BTW. I had no ability to storm his capital again and to continue the war I had to use almost of my mages - and to use large front with only two supply items. And I already used half of my mages or so in the combat, so my research was worse than miserable. Some bad events killed ~60% of population in the capital, so after upkeep I had like 400-500 gold per turn. It was possible to continue the war, but I without some way to gain some gold quickly or without assistance from Midgard _and_ Abysia I had really good chance to became a ruler of wasted land without any ability to recruit. And everybody else was engaged in some type of war.

And Patala just lost. I really do not know what was the reason of this.

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by Russian_Comrade

About Ermor's survival - it was quite simple. I went for his capital, got defeated, lost ~30-40% of my army because of skelespam from ~10 death mages, got another ~30% starved and plauged because I miscalculated. My blessed troops are really difficult to replace, BTW. I had no ability to storm his capital again and to continue the war I had to use almost of my mages - and to use large front with only two supply items. And I already used half of my mages or so in the combat, so my research was worse than miserable. Some bad events killed ~60% of population in the capital, so after upkeep I had like 400-500 gold per turn. It was possible to continue the war, but I without some way to gain some gold quickly or without assistance from Midgard _and_ Abysia I had really good chance to became a ruler of wasted land without any ability to recruit. And everybody else was engaged in some type of war.

And Patala just lost. I really do not know what was the reason of this.

The skellispam helped, but there was a bit more to it. You had 23 protection Ice Guards and Arssartuts with a E9A9N4 bless that made them virtually unstoppable by my chaff -- including summoned skeletons.

The main reason we were able to stop you was because we burned nearly all of our gems to summon a wall of Wailing Ladies that were able to use their AOE soul-slay attack to destroy a good chunk of your melee troops -- especially those uber Ice Guards. Even then, we were only able to kill some of your troops before you cut down my ladies.

The skellispam did help by holding back your forces long enough for the fortress defenses to kill enough of your undead to force a route.

Patala actually did quite well. However, he was sandwiched between Me and R'lyeh and suffered a lot of economic damage that prevented him from mustering a large offensive force. I also focused most of my attention on him since my forces couldn't hurt you.

[Russian_Comrade]

Originally Posted by revenant2

The main reason we were able to stop you was because we burned nearly all of our gems to summon a wall of Wailing Ladies that were able to use their AOE soul-slay attack to destroy a good chunk of your melee troops -- especially those uber Ice Guards. Even then, we were only able to kill some of your troops before you cut down my ladies.

The skellispam did help by holding back your forces long enough for the fortress defenses to kill enough of your undead to force a route.

I watched that battle several times, Wailing Ladies killed 15 soldiers tops. You needed to put them in single unit formations and hide them in the chaff. DtD made them cry for the last time. The biggest number of casualties was from those nasty ballistas, so it was the second reason. Really small fighting front - so yeah, I did kill ~20 skellies per turn, which was within your capability to replace. I played with the battlefield for a little. Even if you had no Ladies and almost no starting chaff (I killed them in the first turn of battle record), I had only so-so
chances to win.

So to capture your capital I had either double the number of mages or bring at least 50% more troops. There was no real means to do anything else - I had no research to speak of because of the DtD spam.

Well, it was a gamble. And the reason why maps with borders are so unbalances sometimes - in toroidal ones Ermor usually faces 3-person coalition.

Patala IMHO expanded too slowly. I expected him to do it better - with the ethereal elephants. Also, I have some suspicions that his dom scale was down to 4 (or less), which is pretty bad.

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by Russian_Comrade

I watched that battle several times, Wailing Ladies killed 15 soldiers tops. You needed to put them in single unit formations and hide them in the chaff. DtD made them cry for the last time. The biggest number of casualties was from those nasty ballistas, so it was the second reason. Really small fighting front - so yeah, I did kill ~20 skellies per turn, which was within your capability to replace. I played with the battlefield for a little. Even if you had no Ladies and almost no starting chaff (I killed them in the first turn of battle record), I had only so-so
chances to win.

So to capture your capital I had either double the number of mages or bring at least 50% more troops. There was no real means to do anything else - I had no research to speak of because of the DtD spam.

Well, it was a gamble. And the reason why maps with borders are so unbalances sometimes - in toroidal ones Ermor usually faces 3-person coalition.

Patala IMHO expanded too slowly. I expected him to do it better - with the ethereal elephants. Also, I have some suspicions that his dom scale was down to 4 (or less), which is pretty bad.

You're absolutely right. I watched the battle a few times and reset the random number generator (via the U option), and I won every time without the wailing ladies.

Next time I'll intermingle them At the time, I had no idea they could be that effective.

[mattyburn7]

Ok. We have a sub for Marignon also. KeithZ is taking over. Thanks Keith!