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September 16th, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
As per, are (some) summons "single instance" (if so, how do you know)?
I just summoned a second "Eater of The Dead" (in same province as first one, if that matters). It happily took my gems, but says "Noone answered the spell", and I have just my original EoTD in existence. Or, is it a chance thing, regardless of instances?
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September 16th, 2012, 07:59 AM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
There's a few spells like this, but most give you one of a few possible summons. If another player manages to summon a being before you you can't get it.
There's 3 elemental queens of water and 3 of air. There's 2 kings of earth and 2 of fire. You can also summon Anthrax, the banefire king, with death, and the earth king Father Illearth with blood.
Some blood summons also work like this, there's 6 Ice Devils, 5 Arch Devils, 4 Heliophagus, and 4 Demon Lords.
You can get one of 6 Spenta when using Call Amesha Spenta. Hinnom can get one of 6 different Grigori when using Release Lord of Civilization. Mictlan can get one of 4 Tlaloques when using Summon Tlaloque. C'tis can summon the Devourer of Souls. Sauromatia and La Pythium can summon the Daughter of Typhoon.
I think that's all for Vanilla, but mods can add more. CBM adds a few (three for Agharta summoned with Open the Seal. One with the fire ritual "Quest for the Firebird", although I think that one might use a somewhat different mechanic).
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September 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
That seems to be a rather complete list Redeyes. Good work. CBM firebird is also unique. No special mechanics iirc.
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September 16th, 2012, 12:57 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
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That seems to be a rather complete list Redeyes. Good work. CBM firebird is also unique. No special mechanics iirc.
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Well, it gets a different name every time it's summoned. I assumed it was some odd constraint with modding and perhaps not wanting to use a nametype just for it.
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September 16th, 2012, 01:12 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
That is probably just the lack of a nametype.
(That is also what makes modding hero units harder).
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September 16th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)
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September 16th, 2012, 02:30 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
Can all of these be resummoned once they are killed? I know this works for demon lords, I asume it works for the rest?
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September 16th, 2012, 03:01 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
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Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)
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I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.
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September 16th, 2012, 03:20 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
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Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)
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I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.
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Thank you. (Shame it still takes my gems then!)
Is this information stored in a file (text editor, tool needed?), or would this be hard-coded?
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September 16th, 2012, 03:31 PM
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Re: Can you only have one instance of certain summons?
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Originally Posted by JonBrave
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Originally Posted by JonBrave
Any specifics for my EoTD? (It's CBM if that makes any diff.)
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I understood Eater is an unique creature. Only one can exist at the time.
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Thank you. (Shame it still takes my gems then!)
Is this information stored in a file (text editor, tool needed?), or would this be hard-coded?
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I just draw conclusions based on the flavor text and the fact you cant summon more than one (iirc). I think these matters are "case sensitive"?
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