spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions

[zastava128]

Originally Posted by DRG

upload the photo

Ok. There were probably only 3 such vehicles. One can be found here (this is after it was captured and disarmed by the Germans):

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/valiant...48392?page=348

Unfortunately I don't have their specs. If it helps, they were probably based on some sort of Magirus-Deutz light truck.

Weapon was probably a Breda MG.

[valo2000]

what about adding some domobran units to the yugo oob?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia..._of_Croatia%29

[zastava128]

Originally Posted by valo2000

what about adding some domobran units to the yugo oob?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia..._of_Croatia%29

Way too much work if you want it done properly. Basically it would require a new OOB. And as you see, the designers have their hands full already.

I guess you could do a token "domobran platoon" and "domobran company" but they frankly wouldn't be much different from the Ustase (in game terms).

[valo2000]

it just would be nice for the player who doesnt like to play with ustasa since they have kind of a bad reputation. Also they probably would have lower morale and/or experience ratings then the ustasa.

[zastava128]

Originally Posted by valo2000

it just would be nice for the player who doesnt like to play with ustasa since they have kind of a bad reputation. Also they probably would have lower morale and/or experience ratings then the ustasa.

Keep an eye on the MODS subforum. You might find something you'll like there soon.

[DRG]

OK , for want of a better name we're going to call that a M-D AC and it's going to use the same specs and Icon as the Russian FAI but without a radio

[DRG]

OK.......... what is not clear in that link is that it is a Bundesarchive photo taken in 1941.

If you go to this link

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...3918&start=110

and scroll down the page you will find a larger version of this photo with the Bundesarchive info ( and once you start with this archive you'll be on line for hours... ) so it may be that this AC had been around for awhile ?

Don

[zastava128]

Originally Posted by DRG

OK.......... what is not clear in that link is that it is a Bundesarchive photo taken in 1941.

If you go to this link

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...3918&start=110

and scroll down the page you will find a larger version of this photo with the Bundesarchive info ( and once you start with this archive you'll be on line for hours... ) so it may be that this AC had been around for awhile ?

Don

Well you just might be onto something. That photo was always labelled as mid-1942, Kozara Offensive. I'll have another look through more of the relevant literature when I find the time.

That topic you linked is amazing but yeah 403 pages...

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Edit: one more question: what's the "average" morale rating for partisans/resistance fighters supposed to be? It seems to vary a quite a bit from OOB to OOB - unlike experience, which is almost always 60-65. To illustrate:

French resistance
1942: 65
43-44: 70

Soviet partisans
41: 60
42: 65
43-44: 70

Yugoslav partisans
41-43: 60
44: 65

Italian partisans
43: 58
44: 63
45: 68

Polish AK
41: 70
42-44: 75

Polish AL (communist)
42: 50
43-44: 55

Czech:
41-45: 60

Norwegian
41-45: 65

Bulgarian:
42-44: 65

Greek:
41-43: 70
44-46: 75

[DRG]

Originally Posted by zastava128

That topic you linked is amazing but yeah 403 pages...

I already had over 500 new photos in SPWW2.......then I found that resource..... ( ! )

The selection of photos I have never seen before is fantastic ( and I have been taking advantage of it...) and it's not just German stuff although that makes up a lot of it


take a look at this for example

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...918&start=3700

scroll down to the sixth photo down...............

"Soldiers of the Carpathian Lancers Regiment (2nd 'Warsaw' Armoured Brigade, 2nd Polish Corps) posing by a destroyed German Panther Ausf G tank."




look at what's on the roof of the panther. Look close it's actually two plates of spaced armour. That's the first time I have seen that and it appears to be a limited modification

Don


Here's another shot of the same tank ( before it had been looted a bit ) that shows the two plates better. This may have been a field mod but if so it was a sophisticated one





Futher digging reveals that in a book titled "Panzer Wreaks" there are "13 pictures of Panthers from 1./Pz.Rgt. 26. Two of these modified vehicles, numbers 424 and 434, have been knocked out in the night of the 15/16 April 1945 near Sesto Imolese, Italy."

So my best guess is this is a Field mod confined to this one unit but still......... never seen this before

FURTHER EDIT

Now I'm tripping over photos of this tank. Here's another one take from a different angle at a different time

[DRG]

The answer is..... it varies in the OOB's then the code varies it some more