RetLT Scenario issues

[DRG]

This was a (MUCH) bigger mess than I thought it was when I first started looking at it

I suspect this map was originally larger and it was trimmed down after the scenario was built and that is why some units ended up on the edges and whole blocks of units ended up not even on the map. Although I am not seeing the narrow east edge now, the east edge did show unusually narrow when I started but I have loaded and saved the scenario a dozen times so there may have been some self-correcting going on

The hint to that is the lower edge shows damage in the grey hexes which is not normal and the eastern/right edge grey hexes were not full hexes like the west/left edge.

When I finally waded through this all the units should get onto the map but it is **a bit**< understatement/ sarcasm..... more nightmare> of a mess that took a large number of restarts to correct and near the end of the first go through I started thinking that perhaps in the Russian cases that had large blocks of units that those " off map" were supposed to be re-enforcements and if the map was indeed trimmed after deployment those large blocks of missing units may have lost their reinforcement entry hexes which would explain why so many are just not there.

I made the corrections from a save so I can go back to the original and that is how I am treating them now but I can only guess WHEN and WHERE on the map they were intended to be reinforcements!

This SHOULD play out much different after all the Russian units actually get into the battle which would change the "easy" rating from the German POV. There are a total of 4274 troops total on both sides.......


We have added a troop, unit and formation stat tab to scenhack so now anyone with access to scenhack can see that info... the actual number of troops in a scenario was never available before

For the Russians guessing maybe 20% never made it onto the map but will now.

EDIT

It took nearly three hours but I have all units either on the map or scheduled to be reenforcements with the exception of one Russian unit that has been changed, then deleted and rebought and IS on the map and IS active when the scenario is played but it persistently shows being greyed out and after a half dozen attempts I have decided being greyed is not important as it IS on the map and can be used so there is one residual quirk but otherwise the units intended to be available are now available.

I'm not sure why you mentioned it was a river crossing when the river is frozen and I have tentatively adjusted the rating

FURTHER EDIT

I was really curious just how many Russian troops never made it on to the map... had guessed maybe 20% but the total is right about 825. As it stood before editing both sides were about equal in manpower ( and why it was easy for the German defenders!).

The extra 825 troops mean there are 31% more than before which should increase the challenge "somewhat" ( that's one and a half Soviet Rifle Battalions)

[RetLT]

Thanks. I will retest and reevaluate.

The river crossing was supposed to go to the previous scenario. I have corrected.

[DRG]

Just for fun I let the modified game run AI vs AI then went off to do other things and occasionally come back and see how the battle was progressing and at first I saw the Soviets swarming through the eastern part of the city and thought perhaps too many had been "reactivated".

At one point before halfway through the Soviet AI had pushed tanks across the bridges over the frozen river and I thought the change had been too much but then I came back a half-hour later and I could see the German AI had started retaking V hexes and when I came back at the end the score was not far away from being a German AI Decisive victory so I am interested in seeing how this plays out for you and anyone else who wants to give it a try

[RetLT]

In the process of retesting now from the Russian side first.

I discovered that the dragon's teeth are not really there.

They don't block movement and can't be cleared.

[DRG]

Do you recall if it was like that before?

[RetLT]

Originally Posted by DRG

Do you recall if it was like that before?

I am not sure. The Russian tanks never made it that far.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by RetLT

I am not sure. The Russian tanks never made it that far.

I checked the copy of that scenario in the virgin copy of the game I use to test update extractions and the dragon's teeth ( and mines ) show on the map but are not reported. In a quick test running infantry through the mines they did not trigger them so neither the DT's or Mines were active in the scenario you tested the first time

They are in revised copy I posted above

[DRG]

I took them out and put them back in again and that seems to have worked as they report being Dragons teeth.

Attached is the updated version.

[RetLT]

Scenario #318 Cut the Baloney

German Wespes have odd pre-plotted targets.

[RetLT]

Scenario #329 Operation Cauldron

British units D0 and E0 play rifle sounds for their Stens. Other squads play correct sounds.