Formations: Rosomak APC (continued)
Concerning class 217 MRV APC units:
208,672,673 Rosomak M3,
669,670,671 Rosomak M3M.
First of all, it should be noted, that Rosomak M3 were not conceived as APC, but were only a stop-gap measure to supplement Rosomak IFVs on foreign missions, mostly as transport and logistics vehicles. Initially Polish Army planned APC variant Rosomak-1, but couldn't choose an unmanned turret, so the program was cancelled and the Army remained with over 100 produced chassis, waiting for further decisions. It was decided to arm a number with provisional open mountings and sent to Chad and Afghanistan mssions. Initially these units in the game were meant to be Rosomak-1 APC (changed in 2012
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/show...t=48222&page=9 ), and apparently inherited its formations.
Units
208, 672, 673 Rosomak M3 (uparmoured) should start in "late 2008" [now 6/08], according to newly found detailed article - only then problems with heavy armoured gun ring OSS-D were solved. These gun rings should have Stanag III armour only (against 7.62mm AP), so now it's much too much (same for Rosomak M3M units).
Already from 6/08 there were used vehicles with ordinary armour and lighter OSS-M gun ring, for Chad peacekeeping mission, so they could be added (12.7mm version would be enough). They aren't named, but possibly the name Rosomak M2, mentioned in several places, applies to them (otherwise Rosomak OSS-M). The color was plain green, and they were used until end of 2009.
As for Rosomak M3, I suggest to end them with an advent of M3M, introducing anti-Heat nets (7/10).
As for M3M, I suggest to end these MRV APC units totally by mid-2014, when the mission in Afghanistan ended. They are not used by regular units in Poland and I assume they are stored, awaiting conversion with 30 mm ZZSW-30 turrets or to other specialized variants. There is little probability, that new foreign mission will emerge, with a need to send provisionally armed patrol vehicles.
(edited: in 2020 it was ordered to modify three M3 to some unspecified role, probably connected with command vehicles
https://milmag.pl/dodatkowe-rosomaki...ecjalistyczna/ . However, it is not clear, if they are meant to remain M3, or rather be rebuilt to some other variant. Anyway, I think we don't need M3 after 2014, even if there would be some accidental usage. Alternatively, we could remove combat platoons with infantry by that date, and leave only formations with sole vehicles.)
(BTW, as for units 670, 673 with 40mm AGL - additional UKM-2000 is not CMG, but ordinary MMG on improvised pintle mount, if it matters - a field modification, known from photographs. It may even supersede a variant with sole 40mm AGL, and eg. 672 Rosomak M3 might be converted to M2 mentioned above)
Formations using class MRV APC:
252 Mec Bn Spt MRV - Available: 06/108-12/125
343 MRV ATGM Pl - Available: 06/108-12/125
345 MRV ATGM Sec - Available: 06/108-12/125
- ATGMs should be carried by unarmed Rosomak-S. But 4-launcher formation 252 seems redundant: primary formation is 2-launcher section (345), and we have also a whole AT platoon with 6 launchers (343).
330 MRV APC Pl - Available: 06/108-12/125
332 MRV APC - Available: 06/108-12/125
- correct formations of sole APC (however, in case of 330, it might be worthy to mix MG and AGL armed vehicles, for one period of time at least)
334 MRV Company (+) - Available: 06/108-12/125
335 MRV Company - Available: 06/108-12/125
340 MRV Platoon - Available: 06/108-12/125
- MRV companies are redundant, because these vehicles were not supposed to be used in companies.
As for MRV Platoon, I suggest to create a mixed Afghanistan patrol platoon, with two Rosomak M1 IFV and two Rosomak M3. It might be called eg. MRV ISAF Plt - so one could choose all-IFV platton or such mixed platoon for Afghanistan ISAF scenarios. As with IFV above, there are three sections and a support section of 60mm mortar and 40 mm AGL.
Again, we could mix two kinds of Rosomak M3 in a template (optimally, two platoons for different periods, the second with Rosomak M3M).
341 MRV Bn Spt Pkg - Available: 06/108-12/125
359 98mm MRV Mtr - Available: 06/108-12/125
- 98 mm mortars are towed by trucks only, not Rosomaks, and we have a formation with mortars towed by utiliy vehicles.
One last thing: photos of Rosomak M3 an M3M don't show these variants, which should have big open armoured gun ring.
M3 is here:
https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly...e0bccf2884.jpg ,
https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly...01e2bbcdc5.jpg ,
https://www.rosomaksa.pl/kto-rosomak-z-obrotnica.html,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...anistan_27.jpg
I will have to scan M3M photos, because they are not in the net.
To finnish with Rosomaks:
Rosomak S should be created for Spike sections, using 448 Rosomak CC as a template (with corrected basic armour). Class 23 APC (wheel) is free at that time. Date should be around 6/108 (like formations 252, 343, 345 - date more/less correct). It can swim. (It has popular nickname "Spike-o-bus"
)
BTW: Rosomaks with basic armour can swim 10 km/h, so speed:2 might be too low.
448 Rosomak CC - FO vehicle. There exists such vehicle Rosomak AWR, for Rak mortars - hopefully, introduced in 2022. It will be armed in #98 UKM-2000 CMG,
(597 Rosomak Ammo - there are no Rosomak ammo carriers, and there are no such plans)
667 Rosomak-Rak - it has no machine gun, especially CMG. It has laser RF. There is no mention, if it can swim, but photos don't show screws...
(I've already written, that the name should be Rak or M120K Rak or SMK-120 Rak)
679, 680 Rosomak 2/2M - ammunition of ZSSW-30 turret is going to be 400 (20+20 - now 18+18).
I hope that's all.
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