Updates in light of Ukraine war

[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Well though this is good news for the N/NE Ukraine, it will not be for the East. Several news agencies have for instance have shown a slightly over 8-mile column of trucks and 100's (unspecified number of) of various armored vehicles.

Yep and pretty much what they reported at the beginning of March as well

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/01/huge...hing-kyiv.html

Huge Russian convoy approaches Kyiv as fears of all-out assault on the city grow

That didn't pan out as planned......

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

I can confirm this deal was under contract as the article indicates. What's at issue because of the Ukrainian War, what will be the "fall out" from this. As the article indicates this as well was a "power projection" move by China with this full 20 aircraft contingent arriving at the same in Serbia. CNN just reported Zelinsky to speak to the S. Korean National Assembly of the Republic of Korea, I wonder about what? They would like to send a message of their own to China. Material support to Ukraine could be it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...0ef01eacaa245f

Sweden and Finland pressing for NATO membership. Lots out there about this. What Russia didn't want to happen in Ukraine on their Eastern border will mark my words happen on its NE eastern border with Finland.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...5448bb845effbc
https://history.state.gov/historical...rus1949v04/d62
https://www.sps.ed.ac.uk/sites/defau...e_Handbook.pdf

Those above are part of the "spider web" around the center of it of course being the Ukraine and Russia.

This mission has quietly been confirmed with a variation of "I can neither confirm or deny" or "Speak to any particular operations" so I guess we'll never know if SAS, Green Berets or SEALS are taking pictures or video. This would provide some excellent battlefield intel. On the highlighted "blue wording" click on them for further information.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=10a7efb26710

Now this next I did click on the blue. You might remember that I was pretty adamant about my comments concerning the Russian "bird cage" over the turrets of their tanks and some APC's. I basically said they were crap and would not stop a modern tandem warhead top attack weapon. So, to make my point on that and Stugna-P multi-tasking.

YOU MUST FOLLOW DIRECTIONS TO SAVE YOU TIME FOR THE ABOVE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ENJOY THE REST AT YOUR LEISURE.

Scroll down to 5 APRIL AND START COUNTING...
Video #1 STUGNA-P taking a helicopter.

Video #3 2 T-72B3 just after top attack. It's FAST but in the beginning, you'll see one T-72B3 had a "bird cage" and like the rest of the tank what's left of it.

Video #12 Unidentified T-72 hit by a "pile driver" and where's the hull!?! Stay with it as he pans around the tank. Killed and buried at the sometime. I make no light of it.

Scroll down to 6 April, well you know as you just did it...
Video #2 STUGNA-P taking out a T-72 variant.

Video #3 T-72B1 "Pile Driver" Top Attack.

Video #9 T-72B3 "How about that cage" definitely traditional top attack. JAVELIN and NLAW like most other TA ATGW turret separation is a sure sign of them likely having been the cause of it.
https://twitter.com/BarracudaVol1/st...33247284527122

I'm just making an educated guess here and more so with 5 APR Video #12
and possibly 6 APR Video #3 I feel was done by a precision munition along the line of our EXCALIBUR 155mm munition. It is CONFIRMED that they both have and have used them. Note dates of and in the article.
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...rget-1647.html

[DRG]

The Javelins are handy because they do not require set up time like the Skif but either version of the Skif will get the job done

The game-changer on a lot of levels will be if the Russians use their artillery the way they did "in the old days" which will create a lot of collateral damage but it will make setting up ATGM kill zones problamatic

The other change that might occur is more reliance on basic infantry to clear areas of AT teams before moving armour forward. Either way, it's gonna get ugly

[DRG]

What Happens to Russian Tank After a Shot from ATGM System

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...stem-2490.html

Ukrainian Stugna ATGM's Hunting on Russian TOS-1 Buratino MLRS. Detailed Video of System's Crew Work
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...work-2472.html

Russian Occupiers Lost 3 TOS-1A MLRS While Running Away From Kyiv Region
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...gion-2451.html


In the case of the TOS I have other info that claims the Ukrainians have now started using the captured TOS against the Russians ( and why it is now in the Ukrainian OOB )

[DRG]

Javelin vs NLAW: Ukrainian Soldier Explains from Own Experience which of the Two is More Effective Against Russian Armored Targets

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...gets-2495.html

[DRG]

Someday the new additions will stop but it's not going to be today

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...ideo-2514.html

Expect a MUCH different Ukrainian OOB than the one you have now

[Aeraaa]

Originally Posted by DRG

Someday the new additions will stop but it's not going to be today

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...ideo-2514.html

Expect a MUCH different Ukrainian OOB than the one you have now

The way things shape in the last years, I'd expect a different OOB for most of countries in Europe.

[DRG]

There have been new units added in other OOB's but nothing comes close to Ukraine

[DRG]

Ukrainian claims of Russian losses as of today

https://en.defence-ua.com/news/the_4...afts-2516.html

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Don,
Can confirm yours about TOS-1 as well through my sources.

I to have seen reports of units using both in a "combined arms" tactical situation. These guys (And I use this generically for both sexes as both are fighting hard.) are fighting a better tactical battle and plain "out foxing" the Russians.

I've said for years out here they are better than most-I'm leaving it at that.

Now another strand to the Ukrainian "Spyder Web" from the Polish Govt. earlier today their time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...16bc79ff6545a2

Moscow didn't like him, or his policies and I remember that crash as it made world news and there were immediate suspicions then of assassination.

And the world keeps revolving.

To think this all started for me with OPLOT-M.

Looking back, I'm sure Don is thrilled about that!?! (Morale booster for you know who!)

Regards,
Pat