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				February 3rd, 2010, 08:13 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: EA  Land nations Only... Game Name:  Landlubber: 
 Ghoul i know how you feel. in my first 4 mp games, i was ganged up on early in 3 of them. one of them included two 3-1 gangbangs. honestly all i can tell you is that i was forced to learn diplomacy. i don't like it much, but you gotta do it.
 and also, Marverni has an unfortunate reputation which leads to it getting a disproportional amount of gangs.
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				February 3rd, 2010, 08:34 PM
			
			
			
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 I've played a few games with ghoul and (through no particular fault of his own) he's ended up on the wrong end of team gankfests. I was on the giving end of at least 1 of them   . So it's easy to understand why he might be upset. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 3rd, 2010, 08:39 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Frozen Lama  and also, Marverni has an unfortunate reputation which leads to it getting a disproportional amount of gangs. |  I'm not sure you get to pull the reputation card when one of the 'gankers' is Agartha   |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 3rd, 2010, 08:43 PM
			
			
			
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 squirrelloid please. as much as you hate to admit it, marverni does have that reputaion. agartha too, but its still there |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 3rd, 2010, 08:44 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Frozen Lama  squirrelloid please. as much as you hate to admit it, marverni does have that reputaion. agartha too, but its still there |  I'm just saying, by that logic Yomi should still be alive and I should've been ganked hard. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 3rd, 2010, 10:35 PM
			
			
			
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 That was map placement on Yomi, he never had a chance from turn 3. No fault of his own. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 4th, 2010, 09:03 AM
			
			
			
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 What triggered the gang bang is not Marverni's reputation, it is that ghoul attacked me first. Making the first move is like calling "I'm at war now, I'm weaker, hit me", it is true for any nation in any position in this game. Attacking one neighbour should only be done when you have the others secured, be it by force or diplomacy. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 4th, 2010, 06:08 PM
			
			
			
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 Ah, i see Kailasa decided to show me its army.  Please attack me, it will be entertaining.  At least for me.  You might not be so enthused. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 4th, 2010, 07:47 PM
			
			
			
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