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Old January 24th, 2002, 06:23 AM

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I added the Babylon 5 engines and reactors posted in the B5 mod thread.
They seem to work fine with the custom ship sizes I had made. Still have to try the "useless ability" solution to the large sized engines proposed in that thread.
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Old January 24th, 2002, 04:20 PM
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Hey, do you guys want me to generate a population modifier scheme for you?

In the B5 thread, I posted a 350KB file (SE4 handles it no prob) to paste into Settings.txt

What it does, is:
a) Plantary construction starts at 10%, and increases by 1% every 50M people. Homeworlds get about 400% Production, while new colonies are very slow builders. (Fear the Sphereworld!)
b) Resource production rapidly increases to 200% production, then fades back to 50% as the population grows into the multi-billions. The actual curve is a streched sine wave.

Any simple pattern you want can be done, and I can generate previews for you to compare.
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Once we add the 'useless abilities' to the engines, you'll be able to cut and paste it over

Hoping to have weapons done in the next week or three...
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Old January 25th, 2002, 06:14 AM

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Those population modidifiers seem to be meant to give more importance to homeworlds. That sounds realistic for B5 and ST, but not for SW where a single planet as unimportant an in SE4. Too bad settings.txt affects all races.
Sounds interesting, but it's not one of my priorities. And even if it is we could just use the same modifiers you posted there.

Yep I was considering making engines of similar sizes for SW races. Maybe they should use the same "useless abilities" to make patching easier.

I'm slowly working on SW techs, and the B5 mod seems to be progressing well.
Now we need someone able to work in Star Trek technologies.
Atrocities? anyone?
Come on I know there are a lot of trekkies out there!
Even if you don't have experience modding you should be able to discuss and give your oppinions here.
I have a few trek weapons copied from that Babylon Trek Wars site. Just need someone to revise them, divide them by race, order them in a tech tree, and add a few more if necessary.
Add Trekkish engines, shields, sensors and other miscellaneous techs.
Many races have too few ship sizes. Some have only 1 or 2.
Propose more sizes to make races more functional. (That doesn't mean giving the Federaion, SSD sized ships. Contrast between races is good.)
Also I had ordered ships by size, but some are supposed to be small and advanced, reorder the techs and give those sizes some advantage such as to hit bonus, speed bonus (less engines per move for their size or mov bonus) or some other built in ability.
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Default Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)

What kind of spread do you have on weapon damage?
If its not too great, you could try the crystalline effect for trekkie shields.
Get them to deflect 90% of the damage of most weapons back into the shields, but make the shield generators "armor".
When you make ablative armor, it should have fewer hitpoints than the shield generator "armor", so that it gets hit first... that means the ablative components must be smaller in order to maintain a good HP/KT ratio.

PS: regarding the pop modifiers, my point was that I can easily change any of the parameters. If you want SY rate to increase rapidly and reach a max early, no prob. Any function that I can type in to the computer is fair game.
The big thing here is that I can generate 2000 modifiers, so you get smooth production increases.
Only a 1% change between any two modifers if you want.

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Has there been any thought of adding stuff from other scifi universes after the babtrekwars stuff is compiled?
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Honor Harrington: Puke was talking about this at one point, don't know if anyone is working on it though.

Starfire Universe: Pres Elect Shang was talking about this boardgame (if I remember correctly) that was the inspiration for SE IV, would be fitting to be added at some point No work on this as far as I know.

Battlestar Gallactica: Cyclons and Colonials are both viable, though there aren't any special weapons for them as of yet.

Andromeda: Someone mentioned this in passing, but nothing has been said about it since.
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"Honor Harrington: Puke was talking about this at one point, don't know if anyone is working on it though."

That would be.. hard. HH shields/drives are fairly bizzare- the front and back are *totally unshielded* while the top and bottom are invincible. Plus the laser-head missles (drones?), and of course the dual-FTL system- warp points *and* hyper drive FTL.

EDIT: that and the difference between ship sizes (a dreadnaught has *40 times* the firepower of a destroyer)- at one point, a single dreadnaught kills four battlecruisers in a single broadside. Ow. That was pure firepower, no manuvering..

Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would be difficult. Especially since SE4 doesn't have weapon/ship facing effects.

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Adding Wing Commander stuff shouldn't be hard.
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Sounds good. Adding anything is possible if someone is willing to help creating the mod.
We need ships sizes, weapons, engines, sensors, shields or whatever other components they use.

No one has voluntered to help with the Star Trek part so far. I thought there were many Trekkies around.

Maybe we get to add Honor Harrington, Starfire, Battlestar Gallactica, Andromeda, Robotech, Flash Gordon and Wing Commander before.
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