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December 29th, 2007, 08:44 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
That´s right, shall is for us or I only.
will can be used in any.
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December 29th, 2007, 09:11 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
Huh? Never heard that. Sorry to go OT in a thread for a game I'm not even in. But what about the meek? You know, "blessed are the cheesemakers, and the meek shall inherit the earth," and all that sort of stuff. (Well, obviously in dominions the meek are just going to inherit the pointy end of a sword, but I couldn't think of a better example.)
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December 29th, 2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
Okay, I couldn't resist googling this:
Indicative:
I shall; you will; he, she, or it will. (same for plural).
Imperative:
I will; you shall; he, she, or it shall. (again, same for plural).
So, Torin is correct in the more common indicative sense. However, in the more forceful imperative it's the opposite.
Child: I won't tidy my room.
Mother: You _shall_. (i.e. a command)
This doesn't shed much light on "the meek shall inherit the earth" - apparently it's an order. Or more probably, an error.
Sorry for all the OT discussion on the thread for a game me and vfb aren't even in guys!
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December 29th, 2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
No problem 
I've always thought that shall implies a greater degree of certainty. So it’s generally not appropriate to us for others except in commands and things like that. Seems I was kind of close to the real usage.
That R’lyeh shall be thrown back in the sea was some kind of divine declaration. Or wishful thinking  |
December 29th, 2007, 10:12 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
"Shall" is also subjunctive, meaning "let it be so".
The meek shall inherit the earth == All you aggro nations r gonna get pwned.
The madness shall be pushed back into the sea == Dude, we're gonna go pwn some crazy starspawn.
So, Kadelake, you were correct to use "shall." And I promise I'll depart this thread now. If anyone wants to continue discussing "shall", let's head to the Bar & Grill.
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December 29th, 2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
i will go to bar & grill even if i dont want to discuss
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December 31st, 2007, 11:21 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
Happy new year!  |
January 3rd, 2008, 04:54 AM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
Happy new year to all
Soon i'll reset the timer to the previous schedule..likely after this turn is done =) |
January 6th, 2008, 03:58 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
Ok, R'lyeh attacked me this turn and I can sadly only repeat what someone else said before: I don't stand a chance. Really, I mean it.
I think that our only solution is a great alliance against them. Ulm must understand this: he should stop his aggression against me if he doesn't want to be the next on R'lyeh's list.
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January 7th, 2008, 04:20 PM
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Re: Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (OPEN)
A declaration from Ulm:
We hereby declare that we are to break our non aggression pact with Rlyeh and join war against the increasing number of madness. After three turns (turn number 37) we shall launch our attacks against the insane.
It is regrettable that we should break such a long lasted and fruitful peace but I guess the God of Ulm has finally realized the danger just next door.
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