OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible - Page 11

Aloofi · #**101** March 5th, 2003, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by tbontob:
I don't know why they included Revelation in the Bible.

Yeah, and I don't know why they took only 4 of the 40 gospels existing when in 325 C.E. in Nicea they made what we know today as the New Testament.
Maybe to save paper?

Fyron · #**102** March 5th, 2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Aloofi:

quote:
Originally posted by tbontob:
I don't know why they included Revelation in the Bible.

Yeah, and I don't know why they took only 4 of the 40 gospels existing when in 325 C.E. in Nicea they made what we know today as the New Testament.
Maybe to save paper?

Because they wanted to get a very specific message across, and so chose only those that relayed that message.

Aloofi · #**103** March 5th, 2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Because they wanted to get a very specific message across, and so chose only those that relayed that message.

It looks to me more like they chose the ONLY 4 that said that guy, what his name?, was born from a supernatural sperm injection instead of good o'l sex.

Alpha Kodiak · #**104** March 5th, 2003, 11:13 PM

I'm going to regret this....

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I am not sure what else I could have said that I did not say, as the Bible was written after the historical events it supposedly predicted (or more precisely, the parts that did the "predicting" were written after the fact, as not all of the Bible was written at the same time)

You keep saying that, but in this entire thread you have never offered any evidence of it. If you have any evidence, I would like to see it, otherwise you cannot keep putting down Rags for his belief (and mine) that the Bible is true.

TBonTob: For a discussion of the authorship and date of Revelation, see the following: Link

I believe it was written by John the Apostle at the very end of his life, but as the above article explains, it is not that important. The book claims Divine inspiration. What is important is whether you believe that to be true or not, rather than whom you believe the human author to be.

DavidG · #**105** March 5th, 2003, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
I'm going to regret this....

quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I am not sure what else I could have said that I did not say, as the Bible was written after the historical events it supposedly predicted (or more precisely, the parts that did the "predicting" were written after the fact, as not all of the Bible was written at the same time)

You keep saying that, but in this entire thread you have never offered any evidence of it. If you have any evidence, I would like to see it, otherwise you cannot keep putting down Rags for his belief (and mine) that the Bible is true.

Actually I think what was really missing from the discussion was exactly were in the bible does it supposedly predict the future and what events would these be.

Fyron · #**106** March 5th, 2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
I'm going to regret this....

quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I am not sure what else I could have said that I did not say, as the Bible was written after the historical events it supposedly predicted (or more precisely, the parts that did the "predicting" were written after the fact, as not all of the Bible was written at the same time)

You keep saying that, but in this entire thread you have never offered any evidence of it. If you have any evidence, I would like to see it, otherwise you cannot keep putting down Rags for his belief (and mine) that the Bible is true.

When do you think the parts of the Bible that supposedly make predictions about the future were written?

A very basic understanding of ancient history would show you that the Bible (all of the various parts of it) was written well after every historical event it supposedly predicted. As I am not a historian, I can not give you a bunch of commonly accepted dates off the top of my head. If I had a sufficient history book and a scanner, I could show you some dates. I think that the main problem here is that you guys are confused about or do not know about the basics of the historical timeline.

You and Rags have shown no evidence of these supposed predictions. All that Rags ever did was to say that the Bible predicted some events. Him just saying that does not make it true. I am still waiting on some actual evidence to be shown here.

And again, neither of you has given any convincing reasons on why Christianity is right and the vast majority of humans that have ever lived (as Christians make up less than a fraction of a percent (though that is probably overly generous) of the humans that have lived) are all wrong about their religious beliefs.

Fyron · #**107** March 6th, 2003, 12:03 AM

Also, where are you getting your facts from about the predictions the Bible has made?

Ruatha · #**108** March 6th, 2003, 12:06 AM

About that majority thing.
Yes, the Christians aren't in any majority of the population.
But remember that today more people lives than there has ever existed in all of mankinds history , added up in atotal over time!

Alpha Kodiak · #**109** March 6th, 2003, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
When do you think the parts of the Bible that supposedly make predictions about the future were written?

A very basic understanding of ancient history would show you that the Bible (all of the various parts of it) was written well after every historical event it supposedly predicted. As I am not a historian, I can not give you a bunch of commonly accepted dates off the top of my head. If I had a sufficient history book and a scanner, I could show you some dates. I think that the main problem here is that you guys are confused about or do not know about the basics of the historical timeline.

You and Rags have shown no evidence of these supposed predictions. All that Rags ever did was to say that the Bible predicted some events. Him just saying that does not make it true. I am still waiting on some actual evidence to be shown here.

And again, neither of you has given any convincing reasons on why Christianity is right and the vast majority of humans that have ever lived (as Christians make up less than a fraction of a percent (though that is probably overly generous) of the humans that have lived) are all wrong about their religious beliefs.

I have not tried to make any statements about particular predictions, in fact I have not posted to this thread before. I am merely pointing out that you continually insist that the Bible's predictions were always written after the fact, yet you show no evidence of that.

As to the percentage of people who are Christian, I do not have information about that for all people who have ever lived thoughout time, but I do have information for the current day (or at least 2000) and you might be surprised. According to ReligiousTolerance.org about 33% of the population of the earth claim Christianity. I actually did not make a statement about the correctness or incorrectness of anyone's religious beliefs, but you certainly have.

minipol · #**110** March 6th, 2003, 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
Hell, somebody rated me 1 star again!
I bet it was someone in the Moon thread. Everytime I say something politically incorrect I get a bad rating.
Lol, I think I understand now what Fyron was feeling when he started this thread........

I want 5 stars!
*runs crying into the night*

Hah. Everytime you say something in these off topic threads, a person is not going to like what you say. Those that agree ith what you say, will not bother to vote, the other will want to show you they do not agree so they vote and give you a low rating.
Look at my rating

Anyway, i like OT discussions on a board with great diversity like this one.
Always provides fireworks