Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01

[Arralen]

One suggestion of undoubtable historically correctness:

There wasn't, and isn't, a word as "hara-kiri".
It was "invented" by americans who didn't get another word right, can't remember which one though.
It is shurely possible to google for the whole story.

Ritual self-disembodyment (sp?) was and is called "seppuku".

Given that you did this rather avoidable mistake, I wonder how well-researched everything else is?


edited: spelling error - shame on me!

[ February 09, 2004, 19:29: Message edited by: Arralen ]

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Arralen:
One suggestion of undoubtable historically correctness:

There wasn't, and isn't, a word as "hara-kiri".
It was "invented" by americans who didn't get another word right, can't remember which one though.
It is shurely possible to google for the whole story.

Ritual self-disembodyment (sp?) was and is called "seppuko".

Given that you did this rather avoidable mistake, I wonder how well-researched everything else is?

He also has the short sword misnamed. The correct name is "wakizashi".

I'm sure that if we go through his mod with a very critical eye we'll find other quirks. Rather than nitpick textual inaccuracies, I think it's more productive to evaluate the units themselves, and the gameplay of the mod as a whole.

Still, if you feel that perfect text is most important, you are certainly entitled to that view. However, it is *my* view that you can, and should, be somewhat less confrontational in presenting your findings than to use a statement such as "Given that you did this rather avoidable mistake, I wonder how well-researched everything else is?" It's rude.

[Scott Hebert]

The term is actually 'seppuku'. That was the ritual suicide by self-disembowelment of samurai, yes. 'Hara-kiri' literally means 'stomach-cut' and is an accepted though not strictly accurate equivalent, true.

If the 'well researched' thing was meant towards me, I don't recall using the term 'hara-kiri' anywhere in my post, and I can only say that my information is as current as I could have it 2 months ago when I was taking my classes.

Bayushi Tasogare

[Potatoman]

As far as I can tell from googling, Hara-Kiri is an english construction of the words Abdomen (hara) and the verb to cut (kiri) which has become prevalent pretty much everywhere. Hara-Kiri and Seuppuku both refer to the same ritual suicide ceremony, often dual-listed together under the same heading in a dictionary.

Regardless, I'm not attempting strict historical accuracy. None of the standard Dominions races are made to flawlessly represent ancient civilizations, and I'm not trying for perfection in that regard either. The O-Ban great guard, for example, were created after the unification but are recruitable units in the mod. Likewise Tengu, Oni and Yurei are only myths and their inclusion would be historicaly inaccurate, yet they are summonable.