YARG2 , 24 players EA RAND game [7/24 players left]

[rdonj]

Okay, it is poll time. One of the players, considering using a phoenix as a pretender, found out that they still have the bug where they can die permanently from being trampled to death. They were wondering if an altered version of CBM could be used in which the phoenix was size 6, to avoid the possibility of getting killed off stupidly that way. Wraithlord is a bit against the idea, but is willing to open it up for discussion. So please vote, for size 6 phoenixes, or against?

Originally Posted by Calahan

Also, I'm not sure exactly what parts of the map need to be uploaded to the llamaserver. I'd guess the .map file for definite, but not sure about the .tga file though. Although I'm sure someone with far more map knowledge than me will be able to provide the answers to this

Both will be need to be uploaded to the server, since you have created a new image file. When you try to upload one, it will ask for the other. At least if the name is different from the version currently on the llamaserver.

[Graeme Dice]

I say yes. I'm not worried about Phoenixes with boots of the behemoth.

[WraithLord]

If the name is not different then I'll change it manually (and in the .map) before ULing it.

As for poll, I'm against this b/c I can't foresee how it will effect balance. It seems trivial but go figure, it's not like the change was tested or was part of CBM so that ppl would have time to consider the ripple effect it may have. We are that close to starting the game and I personally would like to keep changes to a minimum. I am all for Calahan's fixes to the map but would like to keep the changes at that and nothing more.
In short. I vote no.

[Calahan]

I'd generally be pretty easy either way on the Phoenix vote thing. Although I do think it would be a bit harsh if someone lost their Phoenix Pretender permanently (ie. Immortal tag being ignored) due to a game bug, as that is something out of a players control. So seems unfair to punsh them because of that.

But I never fence sit, so I will vote yes for allowing a size 6 Phoenix (based on it fixing a game bug that in a perfect world wouldn't exist). I can't see what imbalance is caused by the Phoenix being size 6, apart from making them trample proof. And........

Originally Posted by Graeme Dice

..... I'm not worried about Phoenixes with boots of the behemoth.

The Phoenix doesn't have any feet So they won't be wearing any fancy footwear from this years summer collection

[Dimaz]

I think immortals can still be killed by other funny things like Votd, so adding one more makes little difference, and I'm with WL here on less changes - less trouble point. So, no to modded Phoenix.

[Stagger Lee]

I'm confused. Are we talking about the phoenix' immortality being ignored, or the prospect of a dead god who can't be called back?

[rdonj]

Ignored immortality.

[Frozen Lama]

I'd vote against. everyone knows the bugs with immortality. they die on retreat, VotD, and i guess trample too.

[Lingchih]

I vote no to the Phoenix size 6.

[LumenPlacidum]

No to size 6 phoenix, even if it would be fun to hit it with a hero's blade that way.