Forseti (Started)

[Reverend Zombie]

Whollaborg said:
I though that this community had got rid of whining worms like Indypendant who, when they lose even without a fight - run home with their armies but stick into the game turning their land into wasteland killing the population with masses of summoned blackhawks etc.

I am not going to comment on the other issues you raise, but I have no problem with scorched earth tactics.

[IndyPendant]

Heh. Apologies to the other players. If you think reading Whollaborg and I will get you down, feel free to skip mine at least. If you like watching drama though...I have a feeling there will be plenty! ; )

Whollaborg: I am losing/have lost the majority of my MP games. *shrug* Then again, I have never played MP, in any game, at all before now, and I have less than ten games here under my belt. I have a decent shot at winning in 1.5 games I'm currently playing. --I would say 2, but I have a sneaking suspicion I'm about to get ganged up on in Elli. (So long as they give me the warning our 3-turn NAPs require, all's good though. ; )

I want to be absolutely clear here, even though I'm sure you know exactly what is going on, and you are only trying to muddy the waters a little. I'm not using--and wouldn't use--scorched earth because I'm losing. I'm using these tactics because of the reasons I spelled out in my previous post: you attacked me while negotiating, and then promised me the moon to keep me from attacking you until you were ready. And like a fool--that I admit--I fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

I think you're just upset because you thought you had lied and stolen your way into a win between us--and now you're watching (most of) the spoils of that win fritter away right before your eyes. (And I must admit, I didn't think I'd be able to do this much pillaging. Thanks for letting me!)

--IndyPendant.

[Cor2]

Ha ha. Way to go Indy!

At first I was neutral in the MAN/TEINCHI war. It was just one sides word against the other, but after reading all the pure vitrol coming from Whollaborg I have to say Indy is at least a more graceful loser. Let this be an open declaration that Jotunheim will attack the kingdom of man on sight. We are now at war.

[IndyPendant]

Heh. Glad to hear it, Cor2, and thanks!

--Although honesty compels me to point out that I've hardly been vitriol-free myself. Still, I believe I have cause, and all of my vitriol has been in reaction to Whollaborg's actions towards me, so there is a difference I suppose.

Not that I'm complaining, mind! I only wish I could have taken him out myself. Since I can't...welcome aboard sir! May I hang up your jacket for you? ; )

--IndyPendant.

[Whollaborg]

Your last message states your reasons clearly as you say, "I cannot stop your army...", "anything and everything I can do to reduce your gains from your victory will be done. Anything at all."

So you are exactly stating you are killing your population because you are losing. Would have expected you to show your army in attempt of defence at least, but everyone fled to the capital to pillage it even before anything was decided on the field even. A sad loser.

[to Jotunheim: please receive these gems as a gift from the eunuchs frenzily killing themselves /Z]

[Whollaborg]

I confess that i got a bit too agitated by the lies directed to me in person (etc.).

I responded these in person, everything else i have tried to roleplay. And perhaps eventually i can start posting as Z instead of Whollaborg in this gameforum too.

I apologise my too harsh language as it makes these forums less pleasant for us to dwell on the issues in the game. I try to restrain my language a bit even if i get assaulted as verbally again in this game even.

Hope we can cool down a bit with the Indypendant as well, so we would not have to wait him getting out of the game?

Whollaborg

[Whollaborg]

#577922 - Mon Jan 28 2008 08:49 PM:
"I still outproduce you, I will still destroy you." "..You are a liar and cheat. Take you down I will, the cost does not matter to me. *shrug* "

My personal response:
#577935 - Mon Jan 28 2008 09:01 PM:
"Hehee Already losing your nerve?"

#579119 - Mon Feb 04 2008 04:20 AM
"To Whollaborg: Scorched earth, you scumbag." "...with a filthy, scheming thug like you." "..."do not trust Whollaborg, ever." "And may the best man win! (A safe toast, since that excludes Whollaborg.)"

#580123 - Fri Feb 08 2008 11:37 PM
"Still, I believe I have cause, and all of my vitriol has been in reaction to Whollaborg's actions towards me, so there is a difference I suppose."


Well, reading that again agitates again. I still have to think you are a worm, lying that you didn't start the filth.

Whollaborg

[llamabeast]

Chill guys. I know it's really frustrating for both of you, but you have to remember that things almost always look completely different from the other perspective. Also, if another player beats you by trickery - well, a real pretender god might do that. The convention on these forums is for great honesty, but there is no rule on that. (Actually it might be wise to start stating such conventions at the start of games so that there are fewer misunderstandings.) If you do use trickery though, you have to remember that people will get upset, and may do weasely things themselves.

Similarly pillaging your own lands can be seen as unsportsmanlike. I probably agree, but there's nothing as vicious as a god scorned after all. Although I wouldn't encourage it it's not completely unreasonable.

Assuming all of both your claims are correct, it just looks as though you're both playing weasel gods. Fair enough.

I would say that to my mind this would all be less bad if you tried to keep in character. Insulting the enemy god is fine after all (you'd expect it in fact). Being insulted directly is very hurtful, and it is extremely difficult to remain calm when insulted. Being as people virtually never agree on the truth of the matter in matters such as these, people will always honestly feel that the other one is the liar.

[vfb]

Report from Toemuck Fen, by Aanhhh, mysteriously-named chief swamp-scrubber of Mictlan:

"Oh great one who is not yet among us, this month we were set upon by harpies and satyrs, as we ventured out to prepare the way for the arrival of the infamous menhorses! I regret to report we lost Harold, Fred, and Bill too! At this rate, in just under 13 years, we will have no more units left for either pre-sweeping duty or mushroom hunting! I request immediate reinforcements."

[Cor2]

Now things are getting interesting.