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August 23rd, 2009, 05:32 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
Huh... I don't know how that could be done without help from llamabeast, and anyway, the message from the server claims that reusing the old files will just reproduce the crash. But communication concerning these problems is murky enough that I will err on the side of asking Septimius about it in a private message, just in case.
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August 23rd, 2009, 10:26 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
All right, well I'm not waiting for that. If Septimius has a magical solution it will have to be applied the next time one of our games crashes.
I'm rolling back the turn. Please handle your .2h files appropriately! Do not resend your old .2h files!
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August 23rd, 2009, 10:30 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
Oh hm I'm trying a strange new thing (you'll probably get another turn file unexpectedly).
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August 23rd, 2009, 10:46 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
WHOA I guess I fixed it?
Apparently after you roll back a turn, LlamaServer will say it's waiting for everybody's moves. And whatever new moves people send in during that time will be used, as you'd expect. But it still keeps the old .2h files in the background, and supplies them for any players who haven't submitted new ones, which is a little weird but the server tells you it does this when you do the roll-back thing.
So you can just roll back and immediately tell it to host the turn again, and it won't actually be certain to crash again, for reasons I don't understand (probably the random number generator produces different values every time so the turn doesn't run the same way?) and yet for some reason people don't just always do this? I don't know. I guess it's fine now though?
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August 24th, 2009, 12:54 AM
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
Sorry just now getting your PM. Right, that is how we handled it. A rollback and a force host.
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August 24th, 2009, 01:21 AM
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Major General
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
I'm confused, which turn does the server think it is?
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August 24th, 2009, 06:10 AM
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
I received two turn files. Turns 34 and 35. Which one am I supposed to be playing and submitting?
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August 24th, 2009, 08:51 AM
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
I wrote all that stuff about rolling back and moving .2h files, thinking you should play 34--but then at the last moment I discovered the solution Raiel was talking about, and produced a proper 35.
So, play turn 35. That should be the latest one you've received, and the only one of the lot that actually reflects the moves you made on turn 34.
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August 28th, 2009, 06:01 PM
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
A thousand apologies!! I had a pretty big pc problem and just got everything up and going. However, I don't have my copy of Dominions right now but I also know my situation as Ogre Kingdom is pretty bad, if I haven't been eliminated already. Should I post a new thread looking for a replacement or have the admin set me to AI?
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August 28th, 2009, 07:31 PM
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Corporal
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Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
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Originally Posted by BandarLover
A thousand apologies!! I had a pretty big pc problem and just got everything up and going. However, I don't have my copy of Dominions right now but I also know my situation as Ogre Kingdom is pretty bad, if I haven't been eliminated already. Should I post a new thread looking for a replacement or have the admin set me to AI?
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Well, you haven't been eliminated... 900 defence on your capitol will make that a slow proposition. I may actually have to starve your entire force just to get the walls down. It might be a good idea to go AI or find a sub just so turns process more quickly for everyone.
BTW... I did notice and appreciate your compliments earlier; I thought I had acknowledged that post, but it seems I spaced it. Thank you! It was good playing with you.
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