MP EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running] - Page 11

rdonj · #**101** March 30th, 2010, 09:14 AM

Here is another For the Record moment: For the record, most games do not specifically intend to operate like this (this being grudge's above post). Some games do, like this one. Most games with binding diplo don't tell you to post NAPs on the forum though. So if you do this in a normal game, don't be surprised if you're the only one

. Even if you do that though, it could be awfully hard to prove that the person actually attacked you without ending the NAP properly first.

13lackGu4rd · #**102** March 30th, 2010, 11:42 AM

I also disagree with this 10 turn no rush rule. 10 turns might not sound like a lot, but in a game like this that doesn't offer much room for expansion, 10 turns can be enough to get you stuck if you can't attack anybody but indies. also all of the "powerhouse nations" have been banned from this game, barring Sauromatia. so it's not like there is some crazy dual blessed jags/niefel giants/palashankas/etc to fear... moreover, such a rule is almost non existent in most other games out there, if you want this to be a learning experience you need to make it as close as other games, not impose tons of special rules that are very game specific...

GrudgeBringer · #**103** March 30th, 2010, 02:27 PM

These are the rules he wants, it is his game and I have had conversations about them, some supportive some corrective.

You signed up for THIS game, so I guess the rules will apply to this game, If you feel you can't or don't want to play by them as you will not receive anything beneficial out of it, then I suggest politely that you withdraw and look for a more experienced game that will suite your needs.

The rules are there and the vote looks like it is in favor of a 10 turn no war start. I am just his spokesman, and as I said, I can take care of myself so I could really care less if I am rushed, I am more concerned with the other new guys in here to give them a chance.

This isn't directed at you specifically, it is just answering your post.

Look guys, this is a little different game, check the threads as EVERYONE is trying to make a game that is not the same old thing. Ysk is doing his best to accommodate everyone while making a fun game, give him a chance before judging this as it could turn out to be really fun. This isn't RTW or SP, and as you play this you will have to adapt because it is somewhat different.

I think this will make it easier to play the next 'normal'game. So, for those that want to continue, we start Friday, for those having second thoughts, we have an alternate list waiting to see if a spot opens up.

Just let me know if you have changed your mind. Thanks and I think you will get a kick out of this game if you give it a try.

13lackGu4rd · #**104** March 30th, 2010, 03:51 PM

jeez Grudge, I was simply replying to this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yskonyn

We have about half of the players now who like the idea of the 10 turn no hostilities pact at the start of the game, but I need you all to cast a vote please so we can decide if we add it to the game or not. Most votes wins.

he wanted everyone's votes, I put mine up... oh and so far those who voted on the forums are tied 2:2 so unless it was all via PMs, aka behind the scenes, than the votes are tied. well, I guess you 2 are for it but you guys are the admins...

GrudgeBringer · #**105** March 30th, 2010, 07:41 PM

We are also players....and we vote also.

Admin simply means we are there as a courtesy to give you extensions, take holidays off, rollbacks (if needed), knowing you have not ever staled and are about to so we give another 6 hours and PM you so you WON'T stale.

And I am NOT admin...I am backup only because I am on the forum a lot and check the site so I WILL catch all those that ask questions, or extensions.

Please Understand...

These are the rules, this is how he set up the game and how it will be played unless you can convince HIM (not me) that it needs to be changed. He is out of the country without Internet access and will be back late Thursday. First turn goes out Friday, so you have about a 12 hour window to convince him of your preferences.

Vote on the forum is 4 to 2 FOR 10 turn No attack Nap to start turn (and 1 PM vote for as they don't want to be involved in all this drama). It was this vote when he left and I suspect it will stand when he gets back, so lets just get ready to enjoy ourselves and learn some stuff.

Swan · #**106** April 1st, 2010, 05:27 AM

Just posting to remember you to send your pretender

GrudgeBringer · #**107** April 1st, 2010, 08:55 AM

Thanks Swan....

YEP, tomorrow is Friday and first turn (we should be able to get a few turns in over the weekend (I know it is Easter) but we have to have all our Pretenders in to start the game...so look at them agian, redo them if you want...but get them in...PLEASE.

The vote was pretty overwhelming FOR the 10 turn no fixed NAP between all nations at the start (Hostilities can begin on turn 11).

This is pretty straight forward and common sense AND accidents will happen (such as 2 armies not seeing each other and both attack the same indie province that there is no remedy for).

The 2 most important things are...

1. No outright attacking of each other or provinces already claimed by another nation.

2. You can not attack a province that borders another nations Capitol. Agian, accidents happen as we are flying pretty blind at the start. IF that would occur the attacking nation MUST withdraw the next turn and leave NO PD in it. On turn 11 if it is still under your Banner you may fortify it and claim it as your own.

In order for it to qualify being next to your Capitol, you must be able to move DIRECTLY into the province from your CAP. Mountians and Rivers may block that movement and does NOT count as being next to Capitol, so use the button (I forget the number) that turns ON the lines that radiate out of any province you click on.

If anyone knows the number, feel free to chime in, otherwise it is in your manual.

If any questions, NOW is the time to ask...

Get ready gentlemen and lets all have an interesting and spirted game. Good Luck to all....

Euarchus · #**108** April 1st, 2010, 09:06 AM

It is "8"

Yskonyn · #**109** April 2nd, 2010, 07:08 AM

Ok people I am back!

RL statement:
A lot of things happen at the same time here and I am pleased to announce that while I was abroad we have received a new member in our family! My brother in law and his wife were blessed with their very first child. A boy named Sam and he weighs 3500 gr. Mother and child are healthy, although giving birth was a bit of a chore for the mother and they had to change from a normal delivery to a caecarean delivery.
She is recuperating in the hospital still, so that's where they keep the baby at the moment as well, but with a bit of luck both mom and Sam can go home tomorrow morning.
After I set all this up and fire up the game I go to take a first visit to meet the little one. I have become 'Uncle' for the first time!
I will be back tonight at the earliest to turn in my next turn if it would be there already, so there is not much delay -if any-.

Now for the game. I see the vote is in favour of the 10 turn no hostilities at the start limit. Grudge has lined out what can and cannot be done in these turns.
The reasoning behind this 'rule' is clearly put down here by Grudge so I do not feel the need to go over it again. The game will start in a few minutes.

I will focus on getting the game off the ground first now. So we are a go.

Doo · #**110** April 2nd, 2010, 07:17 AM

Congrats on the new family member

Looks like we are still one short. I would love to stay up and kick off the first turn but its 22:16 here and I'm stuffed. I'll stay up for 15 more mins and then go to bed.