Ukraine OOB New and Old Toys

[DRG]

It is not the kind of engagement the game was designed to simulate

[Suhiir]

And it's the only game I've found that allows you to command a fully reinforced battalion.

Some come kind of close BUT have pre-set formations (which are semi-accurate, at best), and are usually RTS (which is not to my taste at all). I play "Wargame Red Dragon" quite a but and have some hopes for "Broken Arrow" when it releases (tho the demo significantly undermined those hopes).

[Aeraaa]

Originally Posted by Suhiir

And it's the only game I've found that allows you to command a fully reinforced battalion.

Some come kind of close BUT have pre-set formations (which are semi-accurate, at best), and are usually RTS (which is not to my taste at all). I play "Wargame Red Dragon" quite a but and have some hopes for "Broken Arrow" when it releases (tho the demo significantly undermined those hopes).

Combat mission lets you do that, although it is more of a company size game.

[blazejos]

15 MR-2 Viktor anti-aircraft guns send to Ukraine
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/15-viktor-...zech-republic/


Leopard 2A6 from Germany delivered
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...aine-6207.html

Strykers And Cougars on Ukraine with photos
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/the_f...ideo-6243.html
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukraine-re...apon-stations/
Mine clerance modules for styrkers
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/mine-clear...cs-on-the-way/

JADAM bombs acording to this article were alredy used on frontline
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukraine-already-uses-jdam/

[DRG]

I had put them in for 4/123 and that's the way they will stay. I will add the mine clearing stryker for May for now

[blazejos]

old KS-19 AA guns refurbished starts to be used against ground tragets by Ukraine

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-ukrain...om-ks-19-guns/

RBS-56 ATGMs also on Ukraine
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukrainian-...-rbs-56-atgms/

[DRG]

I didn't see the need for a new thread for this

https://apnews.com/article/nato-finl...a2d81cd30eabc9

Finland to join NATO Tuesday, military alliance chief says

BRUSSELS (AP) — NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Monday Finland will become the 31st member of the world’s biggest military alliance on Tuesday, and that he hopes its neighbor Sweden can join in coming months.

The development comes as Finnish voters gave a boost to conservative parties in a weekend election, depriving left-wing Prime Minister Sanna Marin of another term.

[Suhiir]

Seems Russia can't stop antagonizing it's neighbors.
Tho the recent improvement in relations with the PRC is "interesting".

[MarkSheppard]

Last night, there was a major leak of a TOP SECRET classified briefing deck dated around 1 March 2023.

This time, it wasn't WAR THUNDER forums; but someone on 4CHAN who leaked them to prove a point in a 4chan thread.

I won't be posting the images I found; since they're plastered with all sorts of classification marks -- interestingly enough, the Russians have already tried to use this leak to their advantage by photoshopping casualty figures to reverse casualties taken - i.e. the original says Ukraine has suffered 16 to 17.5K dead -- the photoshopped one says UA has like 60K dead.

Anyway, here's the MBT summary of info that might be useful (I'll post more later, I have to go to work)

US PATRIOT Training ends 27 March
Various Stryker BTG collective training ends 19 to 28 March (Different BNs)

A large amount of LEOPARD 2s are assigned to the 33d Brigade:

14 x LEO 2A4 (DEU) - Delivery by April
4 x LEO 2A4 (CAN) - Delivery by April
14 x LEO 2A4 (POL) - Delivery by March

The AMX-10RC are assigned to the 37th BDE, and as of 1 MAR; 9 out of 14 were on hand, with the rest delivered through March.

31 x PT91 Twardy are assigned to the 117 BDE with all scheduled delivered by 3 APR.

40 x MARDER are assigned to the 82ND BDE, estimated to arrive in April.
14 x CHALLENGER are assigned to 82nd BDE, estimated to arrive in April.
90 x STRYKER is assigned to 82nd BDE, est arrival of all 90 was 6 to 10 March to Dobra.

And for Bradley, 99 x M2 were assigned to 47 BDE, arrival somewhere between 6 to 19 MAR to Zamosc. (Training of Bradleys in that Brigade was 15 JAN to 29 MAR scheduled).

[DRG]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

Last night, there was a major leak of a TOP SECRET classified briefing deck dated around 1 March 2023.

https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Kiew-hae...e24040270.html

in part ( translated from German )

Allegedly secret documents about US military aid to Ukraine end up on the Internet. For Kiev, the matter is clear: It is a disinformation campaign - Moscow wants to unsettle the Ukrainians before the planned counterattack. The Kremlin, on the other hand, sees the threat from the West as confirmed.

Ukraine considers the leak of alleged secret documents about US and NATO plans to support the Ukrainian military ahead of the planned counter-offensive to be a Russian disinformation campaign. Moscow is trying to sow doubts about the planned counter-offensive, Presidential Advisor Mykhailo Podoliak told Reuters news agency.

Accordingly, the data published by the "New York Times" contained "a large amount of fictitious information". Russia is trying to "take back the initiative in its invasion". Tactics like these are part of the standard repertoire of Russian intelligence, Podoliak explained. Moscow wants to intimidate Ukraine with false information about its knowledge of the Ukrainian offensive. The Ukrainian high command wants to discuss measures today to prevent the disclosure of military information.

The United States also suspects Russia is behind the alleged secret documents, as three US officials told the Reuters news agency. The documents appear to have been altered to reduce the number of casualties suffered by Russian forces, US officials said, adding that their assessments are informal and independent of any investigation into the leak itself , officials declined to give further details of the documents. The Pentagon declined to comment on the authenticity of documents dated March 1 and marked "Secret" and "Top Secret." When asked by the New York Times, NATO in Brussels also declined to comment. "

"The first casualty when war comes is truth". Hiram W Johnson