Best Scifi Series ever, canceled! (OT)

[Deathstalker]

" I'm kinda disturbed by the huge lack of racial diveristy on the show "

Not a flame but....

Don't see this as a problem considering the show has a mixed race couple which I don't remember being a staple of T.V. these days. That and it's still the first few episodes we have been shown (actually the latest one was supposed to be the 7th episode, Fox just messed with the numbering again...). Joss's other shows (Buffy, Angel) have a history of being very diverse in their casts (blacks, hispanics, Lesbians, Wicca in 'Non-Satanic' roles, women in the 'power role'), I mean the whole theory behind 'Buffy' was the point of the man (Luke Perry) being the 'Damsel in Distress'.

At least it seems natural, not like Star Trek where they sometimes did things to make a point (and to the point of being preachy). (IMO...sometimes).

Edit, just a sidebar but I seem to remember a sci-fi book (or show, can't recall which one) where they said that in the far future, with the continuing 'mixing' of human races (inter marring etc) that most likely the human race would have a 'blended' look. With the most prominant features being vaguely oriental (or dark skinned) since the human population is dominant in that side in shear numbers (ie, China and the '3rd' world countries.). Esp with their prediction that once China is thrust into the 'current age' it will become a major super-power. Wish I could remember what series this was...think it might have been a 'Battletech' novel or something.....ah well, too many tangents again

[ October 07, 2002, 03:33: Message edited by: Deathstalker ]

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I'm hoping that it does start to show more ethnic Groups, many sci-fi shows have been narrowing down and even editing out some of the other ethnic Groups represented.

[Deathstalker]

One other point, I am actually quite excited by this season of T.V. Don't really watch much but I find myself seeing some really good shows (and a few of them are actually 'sci-fi' )

Ones I'm looking forward to (no particular order)

Buffy,
Angel,
Haunted (quite strong, X-Files meets 6th sense)
Birds of Prey (bring on The Batman!! )
Firefly
C.S.I (not that horrible Miami one, ugh!)
Crossing Jordan (though the new beginning is pure crap!)
Smallville (if I can actually find it on when I'm not working!!)

heh, non-computer time, who'd a thunk it

[Major Tom]

I actually really liked the Last Firefly. It was well written, acted, and had some humour. However, I hope that they don't keep on pushing cowboys in space. Seeing the 'cowboy planet' where everything is completely 1880's, down to the music, really detracted the possibility for reality. I read an article by Joss, who said that he is not including alien life, because he does not believe that there is alien life out there... But we will revert our society to copy the late 19th Century in the US West exactly...

However, leave it to me to finally really like a show and find that it is cancelled.

The lineup this year has a lot of potential winners, and a lot of losers.

Shield looks good (even though it is HBO or something)

Boomtown as well

Buffy and Angel are still on the decline, and getting absurder and absurder. The School gets destroyed by a big worm, and there are still those in denyal... I guess we will have to see how this series ends, maybe Buffy will start fighting Vampires again, instead of Robots, Giant Worms, Gods, Computer Geeks and various ugly demons.

Birds of prey reminds me of this horrid show, I think it is called Black Scorpion, or something like it. I have not watched this yet, as I am not that desperate to watch TV.

If you like C.S.I., I would recommend you to get a hold of some episodes of "DaVinci's Inquest", a Canadian production based out of Vancouver. The funny thing about C.S.I. Miami is that a substantial number of the cast are individuals who left successful TV shows and failed in their solo TV and movie careers. The next member of the CSI Miami crew will be someone from Seinfeld.

Crossing Jordan has let me down for another year. Competing against all of those new forenzic shows (C.S.I. #1 and #2, DaVinci's Inquest, as well as Monk), this show is not individual enough to Last. Unfortunately there was nothing else worthwhile on after Third Watch Last year.

Haunted is probably the only Television show on in a while that actually made me jump in my seat. I am amazed that nobody has tried to do this yet on TV.

Smallville, now there is a total winner. It is on at the same time as Buffy here, and I am constantly drawn to watch it as it is still early in the series to be fresh, new, and with great writing.

[Major Tom]

I don't necessarily see the need to change the cast of Firefly, as you cannot necessarily include everyone from every type of individual, or else you would need a cast of hundreds.

There are 4 Girls and 5 Guys, so it is gender equal. Even still, 3 of the Girls and 3 of the Guys look to posess 'strong' personalities, so it will not be a show where the guys do everything to save the girls.

There are 2 African Americans, 6 European Americans, and 1 Canadian. Try to pick out who?

To add an Oriental would be the next obvious choice, possibly a Hispanic, but would that really increase the demographics? I watch the show "Sex and the City", even though there are no lead male roles. I don't necessarily believe that every show must have equal demographics with its main cast. However, should the minor cast (i.e., eposidic cast or frequent guests) not represent a realistic demographic, then there is something up. You might not have a major character being White when you are dealing with an African-American family sitcom, but you do have reocurring characters who are.

I feel that Firefly will probably continue with the introduction of different cultures intermixing in space, hopefully not representing itself in a total historic context (like the US 19th Century west!!!!!).

[Captain Kwok]

How about we start a re-launch of Seaquest DSV?

From what I remember, that was a fine a piece of entertainment...

[ October 07, 2002, 06:39: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

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All I'd like to see is more ethnic Groups on the series overall, not as the leading roles. Give the show a bit more diversity.

As for Seaquest, HELL NO! I don't want to StarTrek the Next Generation under water.

[Major Tom]

Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
All I'd like to see is more ethnic Groups on the series overall, not as the leading roles. Give the show a bit more diversity.

As for Seaquest, HELL NO! I don't want to StarTrek the Next Generation under water.

It has just ran its 3rd Episode, so I think that in time the will be able to do this. Realistically, when individuals emigrate to other places they tend to do it with people they are familiar with, who tend to be from their same culture, so you will probably expect to find many ethnically restricted planets.

[Captain Kwok]

Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
As for Seaquest, HELL NO! I don't want to StarTrek the Next Generation under water.

I was being sarcastic...

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You don't joke about the bastard child of StarTrek:TNG and 20,000 Leagues.