Fyron's 5000th Post - Page 12

Fyron · #**111** April 16th, 2003, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
well, the only way to eliminate +x movement is to eliminate the whole x dimension. a 'things can't exist without there oposite' kind of thing.

You can have only the set of natural numbers, in which case you have the positive x direction, but not the negative. And why is -x the opposite of x? Why isn't 1/x its opposite? Or -1/x?

narf poit chez BOOM · #**112** April 16th, 2003, 11:41 PM

you looked to much at the math. -x is the opposite of +x becuase they oppose each other.

narf poit chez BOOM · #**113** April 16th, 2003, 11:44 PM

*sneaks up behind katchoo with the 5000th post day mallot...*
*WHAM!*

Fyron · #**114** April 17th, 2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
you looked to much at the math. -x is the opposite of +x becuase they oppose each other.

I looked to much at the math? Umm... looking at the math is the only possible way to compare numbers and variables of numbers...

Cyrien · #**115** April 17th, 2003, 01:00 AM

Math the only way to look at numbers and number comparisons, etc? It surely isn't. One can use logic systems, which while related to math are most assuredly not math.

Fyron · #**116** April 17th, 2003, 01:20 AM

Logical evaluation of number systems is a type of math, actually. It is called Discrete Mathematics.

Cyrien · #**117** April 17th, 2003, 01:34 AM

Discrete Mathematics is a method of combining logical method and problem solving with mathematical equations. It is not all inclusive of Logical comparisons of numbers and other areas.

Even if it where I could still show that your original statement:

Quote:

I looked to much at the math? Umm... looking at the math is the only possible way to compare numbers and variables of numbers

is false by simply making up a nonsensical way of comparing numbers and variables. It would make no sense and have no meaning but it would still be a way it could be done.

Fyron · #**118** April 17th, 2003, 01:47 AM

My statement was not a logical proof. It was not all-inclusive. I did not bother ruling out nonsense methods that do not give any useable results because there was never a reason to do so, and there still is not. So, the method of disproving it by finding one possible way in which it does not hold is not applicable.

[ April 17, 2003, 00:48: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

David E. Gervais · #**119** April 17th, 2003, 01:52 AM

The opposite of Zero is Absolute Zero!

How's that for nonsense reduced to perfection?

Cheers!

narf poit chez BOOM · #**120** April 17th, 2003, 02:32 AM

i wasn't speaking of the math, i was speaking of the actual movement.