New Board - Props and Slops

[lch]

Originally Posted by Kristoffer O

That was automatic as far as I know. If you clicked on the thread name you got to your last read post. Where did you click ???

There was a tiny icon next to the users name who did the last post. You had to click the icon, NOT the user's name like you would do it most commonly in other forum software, because that would have taken you to his profile page. Then you'd get to the last post in the thread. From there on, I'd backtrack to the last post that I read like salmon in the river.

[JimMorrison]

Richard, you can run this through a test board 10 times, it has nothing to do with the human aspect. No one is disparaging your technical prowess, we are just feeling as if our needs are being disregarded, for the aspirations of others.

Requesting that this discussion be terminated, and moved to a more formal and totally invisible complaint system, is a symptom of that very issue. We are discussing things here, and the whole thing has remained entirely civil, so I see no reason to squash the thread. If you're afraid that Mindi and Annette will simply pay too much attention to this thread, maybe that is so. They are tremendously patient with us, and I don't think there is enough appreciation that we can possibly lavish on them for not dropping PMs at us that say "quitcher*****in". :P


Regarding suggestions that game specific discussion be taken off site - I'm not sure I understand how this is in any way optimal for a PBEM game. IRC would be the medium of choice if we were playing for extended periods all together. Otherwise, due to the nature of the gameplay, and the nature of all of the scheming and plotting that is involved in a game of Dominions that takes 2-3 months to play through, the forum PM system is the ideal format - especially now with the ability to forward PMs to others.

The Shrapnel forums have always been the needle in the haystack. Suggesting that we go set up a special email to use only with Dominions, that we will have to manage separately for privacy and continuity concerns - just because the PM limits are similar to those used by other successful forums - is just plain ludicrous.

I think most people posting in this thread are displaying their ability to be rational and agreeable. We are not railing against change. We are feeling somewhat deprived and oppressed. The line between change and removal is not fine, nor is it mutable. Useful, appreciated, and integral portions of this forum no longer exist. Relating this to inventions and discoveries that universally enhance quality of life - could be construed as misleading at best.


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[Jazzepi]

Jim, I can always count on you to spend far more time then me to say exactly what I want to say in a more eloquent fashion.

I'm glad you have nothing better to do with your time

Jazzepi

[lch]

Please do remove the "bad words" filter, it's silly. Or at least over-sensitive. We have moderation, I don't think we need it.

[Annette]

Originally Posted by lch

Please do remove the "bad words" filter, it's silly. Or at least over-sensitive. We have moderation, I don't think we need it.

That hasn't really changed from the "old" boards. I think a few variations were added, but it's pretty much an old feature. I'd post what it blocks, but it won't let me Trust me, it's words no one needs to use here for any reason whatsoever.

[lch]

Originally Posted by Annette

Trust me, it's words no one needs to use here for any reason whatsoever.

Lemme test it. What if I wanted to *****? If I'd be *****ing, would anybody here mind? The filter, at least?

Yeah, now you can all start and try guessing...

[Annette]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Richard, you can run this through a test board 10 times, it has nothing to do with the human aspect. No one is disparaging your technical prowess, we are just feeling as if our needs are being disregarded, for the aspirations of others.

Requesting that this discussion be terminated, and moved to a more formal and totally invisible complaint system, is a symptom of that very issue. We are discussing things here, and the whole thing has remained entirely civil, so I see no reason to squash the thread. If you're afraid that Mindi and Annette will simply pay too much attention to this thread, maybe that is so. They are tremendously patient with us, and I don't think there is enough appreciation that we can possibly lavish on them for not dropping PMs at us that say "quitcher*****in". :P


Regarding suggestions that game specific discussion be taken off site - I'm not sure I understand how this is in any way optimal for a PBEM game. IRC would be the medium of choice if we were playing for extended periods all together. Otherwise, due to the nature of the gameplay, and the nature of all of the scheming and plotting that is involved in a game of Dominions that takes 2-3 months to play through, the forum PM system is the ideal format - especially now with the ability to forward PMs to others.

The Shrapnel forums have always been the needle in the haystack. Suggesting that we go set up a special email to use only with Dominions, that we will have to manage separately for privacy and continuity concerns - just because the PM limits are similar to those used by other successful forums - is just plain ludicrous.

I think most people posting in this thread are displaying their ability to be rational and agreeable. We are not railing against change. We are feeling somewhat deprived and oppressed. The line between change and removal is not fine, nor is it mutable. Useful, appreciated, and integral portions of this forum no longer exist. Relating this to inventions and discoveries that universally enhance quality of life - could be construed as misleading at best.


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I just got angry for the first time today. We have asked repeatedly that specific issues be posted in a specific thread. It's not efficient for Mindi, Richard, Tim and myself to hunt around various threads in various forums to identify problems and requests. As Ich said, the party seems to be here, so we're here. But we're also in the thread we asked to be the official spot. We're also answering pm's, and it goes on and on. We're spending a great deal of time here talking in circles about a handful of issues, when that time could/should be spent working on the known problems.

Richard has asked that a pm be sent to Mindi if you have a specific issue which needs to be resolved or a specific complaint. This is to help us be able to actually address these issues in a timely, consistent manner. You are welcome to continue this discussion, assuming it remains civilized, for as long as you like. We're saying, we need to keep on task. You are not being censored, and frankly I'm offended by the suggestion that you are.

You may no longer call me Neil

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Annette

As Ich said, the party seems to be here, so we're here. But we're also in the thread we asked to be the official spot.

Just looked again after posting. This "official spot" is nowhere to be found. I would assume that it would be in this General Forum, since it deals with the same content as this thread, which was moved here. However, no such luck. So people are getting pissed at me for posting in the only visible place for such discussion. I still have these unclaimed vouchers for footrubs, and I am not afraid to pass them out.

[lch]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Just looked again after posting. This "official spot" is nowhere to be found. I would assume that it would be in this General Forum, since it deals with the same content as this thread, which was moved here. However, no such luck.

The "PLEASE READ RE: Site Conversion" sticky in the Shrapnel general forums can be replied to. That's the "official" place.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Richard, you can run this through a test board 10 times, it has nothing to do with the human aspect. No one is disparaging your technical prowess, we are just feeling as if our needs are being disregarded, for the aspirations of others.

Requesting that this discussion be terminated, and moved to a more formal and totally invisible complaint system, is a symptom of that very issue. We are discussing things here, and the whole thing has remained entirely civil, so I see no reason to squash the thread. If you're afraid that Mindi and Annette will simply pay too much attention to this thread, maybe that is so. They are tremendously patient with us, and I don't think there is enough appreciation that we can possibly lavish on them for not dropping PMs at us that say "quitcher*****in". :P


Regarding suggestions that game specific discussion be taken off site - I'm not sure I understand how this is in any way optimal for a PBEM game. IRC would be the medium of choice if we were playing for extended periods all together. Otherwise, due to the nature of the gameplay, and the nature of all of the scheming and plotting that is involved in a game of Dominions that takes 2-3 months to play through, the forum PM system is the ideal format - especially now with the ability to forward PMs to others.

The Shrapnel forums have always been the needle in the haystack. Suggesting that we go set up a special email to use only with Dominions, that we will have to manage separately for privacy and continuity concerns - just because the PM limits are similar to those used by other successful forums - is just plain ludicrous.

I think most people posting in this thread are displaying their ability to be rational and agreeable. We are not railing against change. We are feeling somewhat deprived and oppressed. The line between change and removal is not fine, nor is it mutable. Useful, appreciated, and integral portions of this forum no longer exist. Relating this to inventions and discoveries that universally enhance quality of life - could be construed as misleading at best.


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My point here is that it's much easier to manage a list of issues through the PM system (where we can list out individual issues) then in the forum.

So I guess it's this simple. You can discuss things here but the only way we'll add things to the list is via PM.

So if you want to see something addressed, PM Mindi.