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November 16th, 2009, 06:26 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
If I ally myself with pyg here, does that mean I'm also at war with Helheim, Ermor, Arco, & Neifelheim?
Oh well, I do like turkey with all the trimmings.
Seriously though, an extension of any length will help me over the holiday too.
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November 16th, 2009, 09:29 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
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If I ally myself with pyg here, does that mean I'm also at war with Helheim, Ermor, Arco, & Neifelheim? 
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I would say yes. Allies are seen as 'one group' by enemies. At least in my world. 
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November 16th, 2009, 10:38 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
First, there may come a time that your computer or Internet connection goes down due to winter storms etc. While we have to remember that Thanksgiving is an American holiday and we have friends on here from all over the world, I can't see any of us saying NO to a reasonable extension for a holiday in any of our countries.
I say we give Pyg and ourselves that extension as a courtesy to ourselves. I am MORE concerned with the lengthy extension we are comtemplating around Christmas. Its on a Friday and a reasonable Thursday to Monday extension sounds good.
However, from what I have read we are thinking of a series of extensions that could go on for 2 to 3 weeks during that time.
I think your going to find out that some players that aren't doing so well will disappear leaving their nations AI and throw the game out of balance.
To 'Stagger',
Just because Pyg has said he declares war on everyone that has more than a small amount of expieriance doesn't mean 'we the declared upon' are a coalition' OR that as soon as he see one of the supposed enemy he is going to attack them.
Pyg is an excellent player, but he is taking on some heavy hitter nations (except poor 'ol' Arco of course). If you are becoming an ally with Pyg and expecting this to become a world war, you are mistaken and will become a potential enemy of 4 or 5 nations. Better to form a Nap with him and see where you are at the time.
We are off to a good start guys and our Fearless Leader and Admin is doing a GREAT job so far.
Just my opinion of course gentlemen 
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November 16th, 2009, 10:51 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
Also...The first page lists the players and the nations thry are playing....
Argatha and Ryleh arn't listed. WHO is playing these respective nations?
Its hard to have Diplomacy if we don't know who they are.
PM me if you want or just post on here.
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November 16th, 2009, 10:59 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
 My apologies to all, but I was just trying to voice my support for a short break over Thanksgiving. My wife doesn't get my sense of humor either. I am not offering an in-game alliance with anyone at this time. I will choose my words more carefully in the future.
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November 16th, 2009, 11:03 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
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Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer
Also...The first page lists the players and the nations thry are playing....
Argatha and Ryleh arn't listed. WHO is playing these respective nations?
Its hard to have Diplomacy if we don't know who they are.
PM me if you want or just post on here.
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Crazy pills?
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November 16th, 2009, 11:36 PM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
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Originally Posted by Stagger Lee
 My apologies to all, but I was just trying to voice my support for a short break over Thanksgiving. My wife doesn't get my sense of humor either. I am not offering an in-game alliance with anyone at this time. I will choose my words more carefully in the future.
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I got it 
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November 17th, 2009, 12:48 AM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
Arghhhhhhhhh....
Wrong game NO ARGATHA NO RYLEH in here 
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November 17th, 2009, 05:43 AM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
You had me worried there, Grudge... I thought you were finding evidence of a large scale conspiracy!  Thanks for the kudos, Grudge.
I am trying my best here.
I have no objections to an extention of turn time, as I said above. But we should try to avoid having too many breaks as it will make people forget what they were doing. I am one of those as well.
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November 17th, 2009, 11:11 AM
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Re: RUNNING: First Newbie game, let's discuss how we proceed here
Since this is supposed to be a learning experience, i will share what i just learned in another Newbie game i am playing (Casual EA for busy schedules).
Namely: You can tell a lot about the graphs in the nation statistics.
A few things are suggested (though i could be wrong).
Firstly, TirN'Nog has an awake pretender and is using it to expand. How do i know this? Well, their dominion is way above anyone else's (thus an awake pretender with a strong dominion) and they have 3 provinces instead of 2 like most other players.
Next: Ermor lost its first expansion party. Their number of provinces stayed at 1 but their army size was reduced dramatically. This suggests that the independents (or other player-nation) that they attacked had a stronger army then they expected .
Normally i wouldn't say this sort of stuff but its supposed to be a learning experience and so i thought i would share.
There is more stuff hidden in those stats that can be interpreted and i encourage you to give it a try.
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