SE5, Tell Aaron what's on your Wish List - Page 128

Fyron · #**1271** July 30th, 2004, 03:38 AM

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Yup, I designed the facilities for SE IV [Big Grin]

Zuh?

Colonel · #**1272** July 30th, 2004, 03:57 AM

You should be able to get Non agression pact without the AI swarmming your terroitory so i guess you should be able to say were not fighting but you cant come into my terriotory

[ July 30, 2004, 02:58: Message edited by: Colonel ]

Renegade 13 · #**1273** July 30th, 2004, 04:18 AM

I have to agree with Fyron here, the warp point idea is a defining aspect of the SE series. Were they to go, I don't think the game would be near as easy, or quite as fun to play. Complexity is good, but some ideas would be a micro-management hell if you were playing. Its supposed to be a game, not a simulation...we can't have everything even remotely realistic. No matter how much we may want total realism.

Colonel · #**1274** July 30th, 2004, 04:32 AM

with the idea of getting rid of warp points i wasnt suggest getting rid of them completely just not connecting every sector together but they connect far sides of the map this isnt for realism is just for eas of movement

Baron Munchausen · #**1275** July 30th, 2004, 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Yup, I designed the facilities for SE IV [Big Grin]

Zuh?

Yep, he designed the graphics used for the facilities in SE IV.

Antonin · #**1276** July 30th, 2004, 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by Colonel:
You should be able to get Non agression pact without the AI swarmming your terroitory so i guess you should be able to say were not fighting but you cant come into my terriotory

I think the AI should be changed so that AI players do not send forces into your space unless a treaty specifically allows it. I get very tired of AI empires sending military vessels throughout my space just because we have a trade agreement.

I also get tired of AI empires that park 20 light cruisers over my home planet.

Baron Munchausen · #**1277** July 30th, 2004, 04:50 AM

I have to agree that "Warp Points" are just about the single most important and defining characteristic of the SE series. It wouldn't be Space Empires anymore if you removed them. That said, I have lobbied Aaron myself for additional methods of interstellar travel. Warp Gates for example -- buildable devices controled by players instead of just 'natural features' that you can only create or destroy. You could control who uses a warp gate, such as only allowing your own ships or your allies to use it. And some sort of 'direct' or 'off road' method of travel is needed. I prefer 'sleeper ships' where the crew actually has to be put into some sort of hibernation and it takes years to get from one system to another. It'd be really cool to play the occasional 'lotech' game with no FTL at all, even if it would take ages to play.

A 'hyperspace' system like we see in Babylon 5 would also be nice, though.

Colonel · #**1278** July 30th, 2004, 05:06 AM

i know getting rid of warp points would change the game but it would add alot to the game for what ever it took out, if only there were a way to make it moddable like a choice before the game......... but for this that is mightbe to hard so i guess its either in the game or not

Suicide Junkie · #**1279** July 30th, 2004, 05:24 AM

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This of course will not be popular with the realtime battle crowed, but it is much more realistic. Even with our battlefield communications today, ultimately, you have to trust your people in field to do their jobs when they are in the thick of it.

What are you talking about??
Real time vs turn based strategic combat has nothing to do with how much control you have, only the quality of the simulated results.

No matter what system you use, the AI is still playing the whole combat with only the fleet formation/strategy to guide it.

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As for making it a tense game, having MORE control helps that.
Having the fate of your ship rest on your moment-to-moment decisions during tactical combat is tense and exciting, especially if you are outgunned, outnumbered and desperate to win with a major colony/base/chokepoint at stake.

At the empire level, you're just throwing massive fleets around, and combat becomes impersonal, detached.

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The only disadvantage to real time strategic combat is the amount of CPU time it will take for PBW to grind through it.

You probably won't even notice the difference in a multiplayer game.

Kana · #**1280** July 30th, 2004, 03:08 PM

Since we are on the subject of Warp Points. I'm sure someone has suggested this...but here it is again...

The Detecting of WP is a good idea. All warp points should be hidden unless you can detect them. Some Warp Points could be one way Warp Points. You can come out of them...but can't go back the way you came. Different size Warp Points, that allow only certain tonnage amount of ships through. (Alot of StarFire feel here)

Ok my 2 cents is over...

Kana