OT - US Presidential Candiates Arrested!

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Starhawk said:
How did I imply canada sucked? Heck I said it's a lovley country with nice people it's got a small military and a small population that's a fact not an insult .

If you don't know then I can't tell you.

Starhawk said:
Oh and I never made any comments about how giving we are or aren't

Hmm. Sorry. I must have gotten confused there...nevermind!

Anyways, I'm outta here.

[Gandalf Parker]

Starhawk said:
How did I imply canada sucked? Heck I said it's a lovley country with nice people it's got a small military and a small population that's a fact not an insult

Thats kindof the point. Your "facts" about them, and other nations, and other religions, are wrong and insulting. Or at best they are opinions, and insulting.

Most of them have just been too much to bother correcting but just as an example... your "facts" about Canadas size in military and population. Dont you see that as an opinion? The other side of that mirror would be for someone to say that its a "fact" that the US has too much military for a nation no longer in a cold war, and too much population if it cannot support them without commerce. Im sure you would argue those "facts"

[Starhawk]

How is that possibly an insult since the Renegade even said Canada has a small population? I'm sorry but a population of 30 million is small fine it's an opinion sorry

Oh and dear lord they do have a small military that's not bad either as their military is sufficient for the size of their country and for it's defense they don't want a bigger military and Renegade even said they couldn't afford one so it's no insult to say their military is rather small. So what the US military is small compared to the Chinese miltiary are you now saying I'm insulting the US?

Sorry but I really don't mean any of that as an insult and taking it as such is kind of strange.

Now if I said Canada's army was puny or that their population was soooo small as to be the buttcrack of the world then I could understand being insulted but I didn't say anything of the sort

Anyhoo I'm outta here as I'm sick of peopel taking every little thing as an insult....

[Renegade 13]

Starhawk said:Oh dear sweet mother of all things holy I hope your joking because that is the biggest load of bull I've ever had anyone try to force feed down my throat other then the guy who tried to convince me he was having bigfoots baby.

A.) Canada is not worth being hit by a terrorist attack to a terrorist organization because as renegade pointed out so well THEY HAVE an ity bitty tiny population that is not as centralized as the average US big city nor are they as nationally diverse so blowing up a building in Canada would only kill Canadians and most likely far fewer dead (the terrorists were attempting to knock the towers over not make them collapse, estimated body count was nearly 100,000 dead had the towers fallen while rescue personnel were on scene and while the other buildings and streets below were crowded as their fall would have lead to a chain reaction for multiple blocks and killed so many people it's scary), in canada you just couldn't kill that many people that easily unless you dropped a nuke so less body count means less publicity which means not worth it.
And as for Canadians themselves being morally superior because they never fund rebel Groups or anything, uh THEY'RE TOOO POOR buddy! Hand a blue Canadian dollar to a middle easterner he'd use it for toilet paper and then laugh at you (heck he might give it back in the mail)so of course your not funding terrorist Groups.

Ahem TERRORISTS HATE EVERYONE OF A DIFFERENT RELGION look at their doctrines, they hated us for soo many reasons you can't DARE simplify it as a "oooh big bad americans made dumb mistakes during the cold war" crap and th soviet union funded rebels to are they going after Russia.........NO so that blows that theory right clean out of the water buddy.
Oh and no offense to any Canadians here, I hear it's a lovley country with polite people but lets face it in the grand world scheme of things most of the 3rd world nations probobly don't know what Canada is while 99.999% of the world knows of that huge ol' country the United States.

Actually, Canada is probably MORE ethnically diverse than the US is. We have a huge amount of immigration, without it, our population would actually be decreasing. We're every bit as ethnically diverse as you are. Also, we don't have dollar bills here. We have dollar coins. Closest thing we have to a dollar bill is a $5 bill, and yep, its blue But its worth more and more over time compared to the American dollar. Ours is rising, yours if falling in value.

Oh, and by the way, as for "that huge ol' country the United States"....Canada is bigger.

In order of landmass, starting with the largest:

-Russia
-Canada
-US
-China
-Brazil (I think...)

[Renegade 13]

Starhawk said:

Actually if you pay attention to the wording it is hardly arrogant, Americans have been everyhwere and usually it's in large numbers.
As others have pointed out so politely Canadians don't much go to other countries (em masse) so go ahead and ask an Afghani child if they know who Canada is I doubt theyd know.

And Afghani would know, since Canadians are one of the largest (if not the largest) peace keeping forces in Afghanistan, since the US decided to pull out and concentrate on Iraq.

[Renegade 13]

Katchoo said:


Frankly I can't be bothered to hang around here any longer. This place is going downhill while waiting for the next Release.

I'll see you all after SE:V comes out.

Read ya later.

Come on Katchoo, dont' go! Just avoid the political threads, such as this one. I don't think the community as a whole has gone downhill, although this thread could be said to have become inflammatory, with people calling other people "damn fools" etc, and so on, on both sides of the arguement. But please, there's no need to abandon this place simply due to one thing, such as this.

Anyways, hope you change your mind. If you don't, see you when SEV comes out

[Starhawk]

Actually we are still there it's just we have military presence as apposed to a "peacekeeper" contingent like Canada

Don't peacekeepers wear the UN symbols on their uniforms and not those of their homeland? hmmm I always forget that as I don't see many pictures of UN Peacekeeper contingents.

I meant huge as in the american government tends to but into alot more national affairs then canada (yes I said butt in in a bad way) that's all I meant by just about everyone knows who we are.


Anyway I'm out of this thread as I'm buisy working on my mod so have fun all

[Possum]

Goodness gracious!

Things certainly got heated in here.

But isn't the right to hold our own opinions, the right to publicly debate and question the policies of our elected leaders, in essence aren't these the things the Founding Fathers specifically safeguarded our right to do?

Why do any of you become angry over the opinions of the other?

It's obvious that you are all profoundly patriotic, in your separate ways. I'm sure you all support the First Amendment right to free speech. Why the anger?

[Renegade 13]

Starhawk said:
Actually we are still there it's just we have military presence as apposed to a "peacekeeper" contingent like Canada

Don't peacekeepers wear the UN symbols on their uniforms and not those of their homeland? hmmm I always forget that as I don't see many pictures of UN Peacekeeper contingents.

I meant huge as in the american government tends to but into alot more national affairs then canada (yes I said butt in in a bad way) that's all I meant by just about everyone knows who we are.


Anyway I'm out of this thread as I'm buisy working on my mod so have fun all

I know that's what you meant about "just about everyone knowing who the USA is". I was purposely being obtuse I do that lots, and was just trying to interject a little humor into the situation. I know, it was pathetic, but I just needed to try

Anywho, I (speaking as a Canadian) did not take any offense to what Starhawk said about Canada. Small population we have. Personally, I like it that way. If you want to live in the middle of nowhere, or in the middle of a metropolitan, modern city, or anywhere in between, you can. Its great. As for the small military....its true! And I know many Canadians would like us to have a larger military presence, but many would also like us to keep it just as it is. My opinion officially doesn't matter, since I'm not yet of voting age But I should be by the time the next federal and provincial elections come along.

I think we all need to take a small step back, and not become so incensed over what other people say. Everyone has different opinions, and though those opinions may clash, it tells just how free we all are. That we can voice our opinions, even though they may be anti-government, etc. Anyways, I guess you can call this just a plea to calm down, and discuss things in a more rational and...well...calm manner.

I'm outta here for today, hope next time I pop into this thread, things are a little more reasonable....

Also, I'm sorry if my opinion has insulted anyone, that has not been my intention. I haven't been insulted by anyone elses opinions...at times I've shaken my head at the apparent ignorance of some people, but then again, maybe I'm ignorant and missing something obvious.