Omaha Beach - Scen #9

[Dion]

So, smoke had something to do with it. I knew it, but I didn't want to say anything because I might have accidentally caused you guys to chase a false lead, as I really didn't know for sure, I just had a hunch it was smoke related. The way the junk just laid over everything, made it look like it was green smoke. When it happened to me, I vaguely remember it never showed up until someone laid a smoke screen. I wonder if fire in general could also cause it, since fire also causes smoke.

[Karagin]

Odd it was smoke, but yet no smoke was used in the battles when I saw the junk, unless the AI was dropping in off map.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Karagin

Odd it was smoke, but yet no smoke was used in the battles when I saw the junk, unless the AI was dropping in off map.

Show me a save game of a battle in progress with no smoke at all anywhere on the map

[Karagin]

Originally Posted by DRG

Show me a save game of a battle in progress with no smoke at all anywhere on the map

Okay, next one I get where the junk is at the start of the fight or shows up when I go to set up my forces on the left side of the map I will.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Karagin

Okay, next one I get where the junk is at the start of the fight or shows up when I go to set up my forces on the left side of the map I will.

If you can show me a map with no units set up on the left side of the map where no turn had been played and there is junk terrain around the left edge I will be very interested in seeing it given the origins of this issue has been traced back to V1 so what you descibe has taken 18 years to be reported and it was reported after we annouced we appear to have found a fix for it.

[Karagin]

Originally Posted by DRG

If you can show me a map with no units set up on the left side of the map where no turn had been played and there is junk terrain around the left edge I will be very interested in seeing it given the origins of this issue has been traced back to V1 so what you descibe has taken 18 years to be reported and it was reported after we annouced we appear to have found a fix for it.

I am not arguing with you Don, so stick a pin in the ego and save that for someone who is. My comment was I found it odd that is all. Get off your high horse over things. I get it you don't like it when folks are critical of things. Guess what, I am not being that. It's an odd bug that is all.

If I have a map that pops up the junk terrain prior to deploying troops and prior to the opening shots of the game going off, I will indeed post it. If the bug is indeed coming from the smoke code then hey great problems solved.

Save the hostile comments for those who are going full bore into things, which none of us here are doing.

[Dion]

Could be some of the off map, counter battery fire lands short and just happens to fall on the map.

[Karagin]

Originally Posted by Dion

Could be some of the off map, counter battery fire lands short and just happens to fall on the map.

Makes sense.

[Dion]

From memory, I can't remember if it was only indirect smoke rounds that caused the junk or some other type of indirect artillery that caused the junk. It's also important to consider that off map artillery may be causing the junk. Anyway, I hope your testing methods are thorough because players will now be looking for it, and expect it to be fixed if a fix to the problem is issued.

[DRG]

Ran another test with MBT scenario #520 WW3, not so welcome which is a bit of a monster but it is only 30 turns

This is one we had reported as "unable to complete" through Sprapnel Customer service and we eventally figured out the game had been crashing around turn 22 and the save we were provided showed considerable amounts of edge junk along the western edge and was the example I used as the before and after in a post #113.

I let it run out AI vs AI and it ended normally with the end game screen on turn 31 and there was no random terrain junk anywhere.

So that is good news but testing continues