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Puke · #**121** October 8th, 2002, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Major Tom:
Realistically, when individuals emigrate to other places they tend to do it with people they are familiar with, who tend to be from their same culture, so you will probably expect to find many ethnically restricted planets.

Just what the future needs. La Terre Francaise.

Major Tom · #**122** October 8th, 2002, 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by Puke:

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Originally posted by Major Tom:
Realistically, when individuals emigrate to other places they tend to do it with people they are familiar with, who tend to be from their same culture, so you will probably expect to find many ethnically restricted planets.

Just what the future needs. La Terre Francaise.

Either that or every planet is populated by.....

AMERICANS!!

Puke · #**123** October 8th, 2002, 06:13 AM

Only if you're lucky

If you're not, we might end up with (blindly spins globe to find a country to descriminate against) OCEANIAIANS!

hmm, all those tourism dollars must translate into a sizeable budget for space travel, in the future. either that, or they are the only survivors when the rest of us nuke each other in 1995. Oh wait, that didnt happen. DARN YOU, SARAH CONNER!

capnq · #**124** October 8th, 2002, 11:12 PM

Ooh, there's an idea: a show set in the universe of Keith Laumer's "Corps Diplomatique Terrestrielle" (or however it's spelled).

Probably have to be animated; most of the alien races Retief encountered weren't even vaguely humanoid.

disabled · #**125** October 9th, 2002, 05:33 AM

Now here is a serious, but mute, complaint about FireFly. Why haven't we scene more alien enviroments. Sure planets will develop along similar lines, but at different rates and try different things naturally. The argument against this is that humans like to extinct native species and move our own junk it.

Eviction of the weakest indeed...

Captain Kwok · #**126** October 9th, 2002, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
Now here is a serious, but mute, complaint about FireFly. Why haven't we scene more alien enviroments. Sure planets will develop along similar lines, but at different rates and try different things naturally. The argument against this is that humans like to extinct native species and move our own junk it.

The biggest problem with creating exciting aliens and alien environments is COST. Unfortunately our favourite Sci-fi shows rarely have large enough audiences to bring in that kind of money.

gregebowman · #**127** October 9th, 2002, 08:02 PM

my main complaint about sci-fi shows, especially Star Trek, is that everyone knows the same language. I know on Star Trek the universal translator is supposed to be on and that's why everybody understands each other on a first contact situation. Bull!! If the computer has never encountered the language before, how can it understand it? At least on Enterprise they're trying to show how it's supposed to be done when encountering a race for the first time. I just wish more of these shows would pay attention to that kind of detail.

Suicide Junkie · #**128** October 9th, 2002, 09:11 PM

Well, if you have a galaxy chock full of aliens, then;
1) Many Languages would be derivatives of others, and thus fairly easy to extrapolate to.
2) You meet a race, exchange language knowledge, and then both your translators will work with many races you haven't met yet. Meet one of these new races, and do the same thing. Pretty soon you have all the translation info for the major races, and most of the minor ones too.

There were a few episodes on untranslatable Languages, and some where the delay for sampling & extrapolation was critical to the plot.

[ October 09, 2002, 20:12: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

Major Tom · #**129** October 10th, 2002, 02:57 AM

Tonights "Enterprise" proved to me that they are just going to the old enemies of TNG, VOY and DS9. I was thrilled when they were talking to the Telerites, the guys who disappeared after TOS, but then was dismayed to realize by the end of the episode that all they are doing is to reintroduce another group of dangerous enemies, that got really tiresome in Voyager.

I won't give away more for fears of spoiling the episode for someone who has it on TV later in the week.

Captain Kwok · #**130** October 10th, 2002, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
my main complaint about sci-fi shows, especially Star Trek, is that everyone knows the same language...

But not many people want to site through a show that is potentially half-subtitles. Nor do the producers/writers/etc want to come up with a new alien language every week. I'm willing to suspend a little disbelief here and there...