OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible - Page 13

minipol · #**121** March 6th, 2003, 02:23 AM

Nice list Wardad.
I knew beer is the only saviour

spoon · #**122** March 6th, 2003, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Wardad:

6. Nobody's ever been burned at the stake, hanged, or tortured over his brand of beer.

Don't hangovers count as torture?

Alpha Kodiak · #**123** March 6th, 2003, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
That is still 67% of the people on the planet that get to go to Hell because they are not Christians.

Before somewhere around 1 AD (which is an innacurate date anyways, so an exact value is irrelevant and also not very possible), there were 0 Christians. So, all the people that lived and died before that time got to go to Hell, according to Christianity.

You are avoiding the point on this one. You specifically said that Christianity only comprised a fraction of a percent of people. I merely refuted that with documentation.

Further, your statement of the fate of those who lived before Christ shows a lack of understanding of the Christian faith, which is based upon Judaism. Traditional Christian belief is that prior to the coming of Christ, people were responsible to meet the requirements of that religion.

Additionally, I have made no statements as to what I believe to be the fate of anyone. I do not claim to be God, nor do I pretend to have any control over the eternal fate of anyone.

Fyron · #**124** March 6th, 2003, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:

quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
That is still 67% of the people on the planet that get to go to Hell because they are not Christians.

Before somewhere around 1 AD (which is an innacurate date anyways, so an exact value is irrelevant and also not very possible), there were 0 Christians. So, all the people that lived and died before that time got to go to Hell, according to Christianity.

You are avoiding the point on this one. You specifically said that Christianity only comprised a fraction of a percent of people. I merely refuted that with documentation.

Further, your statement of the fate of those who lived before Christ shows a lack of understanding of the Christian faith, which is based upon Judaism. Traditional Christian belief is that prior to the coming of Christ, people were responsible to meet the requirements of that religion.

Additionally, I have made no statements as to what I believe to be the fate of anyone. I do not claim to be God, nor do I pretend to have any control over the eternal fate of anyone.

I said a fraction of a percent of the people that have ever lived, not that are currently living. I am inlcuding all of our line, not just the people that have been living in the Last few 1000 years.

Very few people were followers of Judaism, so that doesn't really change a whole lot.

I never said you made statements as to people's fate. But Hell is the fate for non-Christians according to Christianity (after the alleged coming of Christ).

tesco samoa · #**125** March 6th, 2003, 03:00 AM

Wardad I agree....

Fyron · #**126** March 6th, 2003, 03:08 AM

Things are not heavy in here, so lightening them would not have that great of an effect.

tesco samoa · #**127** March 6th, 2003, 03:26 AM

It's the concept.

2 sides to a coin.

Your on one I am on the other.

There is no inbetween.

I see it all the time everywhere else. I do not want that to take over here.

This is my fav. part of the internet. Where I can chat with people about games, books, movies and sweet tea. Dicussions always involved learning new ideas.

I do believe that the Politiks , etc... should be in another forum if their just back and forth arguements. I am not learning anything except that I do not want to get involved. Both sides are entrenched. So they become like a stagnic pond. There is no flow.

Look at the recent threads.... There all the same.

They start off as an open ended converstation and then divide into two sides with no movement. It's like a broken record.

Sorry it's how I feel.

And the great thing about here is that I can post it.

Ragnarok · #**128** March 6th, 2003, 03:45 AM

Tesco, I would tend to agree. From here on out I think I'm going to agree to disagree.

There is going ot be no changing of minds in this discussion so what is the point of it all? I strongly believe the way that I have stated and nothing will change my mind. There is no hard evidence to Fyrons arguments to defer my beliefs. So from here on out do not expect me to partake in any conversations on this matter, as it will just lead to chaos.
But Fyron, for my closing statements I would like to ask that you not assume that just because I am christian, that I believe certain ways. You don't know at all, or even remotely close to how I believe.

Now, how about them Pacers?!

Fyron · #**129** March 6th, 2003, 03:53 AM

There are basic ideals that define Christianity Rags. I am just going along with those.

If you really want to believe that the Bible predicted events that happened before it was written, I guess there is not a whole lot I can do to convince you otherwise. You have no hard evidence to support your claims, so their is not much to argue against there.

Captain Kwok · #**130** March 6th, 2003, 04:12 AM

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Judge from the Simpsons:
Religion must stay 500 yards away from science at all times

I agree!

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