Oblivion

[shovah]

advice for would be gladiators: if for some reason your having trouble with the arena and are starting a new character try a kajhit born under the sign of the lover (dosnt really matter what skills you take). when you go into the arena cast lovers kiss on the enemy and enjoy 10 seconds of free beating then after that use eye of fear on them and shoot/chase and kill then while they flee in terror. this tactic does have a little trouble when facing 3 opponents so the best advice i have is eye of fear the strongest opponent and then paralyze another and kill the un-affected enemy. this brought me through ever single arena match at around lvl 6 or 7 on normal difficulty (i dont suggest using it on the gray prince, you should earn that victory yourself)

[OG_Gleep]

The grey prince is the easiest fight =)

[OG_Gleep]

PvK said:
Sadly, neither can many game designers, apparently...

PvK

I like the system personally. I also don't think that its nessisarily wrong for developers to charge for additional content. I do think it was a poor choice to have the first one be a glorified skin.

[PrinzMegaherz]

OG_Gleep said:

I like the system personally. I also don't think that its nessisarily wrong for developers to charge for additional content. I do think it was a poor choice to have the first one be a glorified skin.

Well, if Cavedog had charged 2 dollars for each additional unit they made for total annihilation, they would propably own the whole world by now

[shovah]

true but thats not the point here .
on a different note what do you people enjoy doing in oblivion? my personal favourites are the dark brotherhood quests and the arena but having finished both of those i have little else to do.
my majors are: hand to hand, light armour, stealth, alchemy, athletics, acrobatics and marksman and i have a decent security.im a khajit with a decent selection of magic equipment (the arena champion armour, all the dark brotherhood rewards and the hands of midnight) and i have a huge amount of potions with lvl76 alchemy (doing alchemy is all i do now) so i really need something to do or i may just resort to the main quest and dungeon crawling (neither of which require much skill compared to assasination or arena battles so something else that actually requires more skill that being able to tap a button would be nice)

[OG_Gleep]

Is it you know all your options and are choosing not to do them? Or you just don't know what to do? If its the latter, the sections for non-main quest line in the strategy book was way bigger then the main quest line. I can't find the book atm but I'd estimate its atleast 3times bigger.

Theres a buttload of misc quests, each town has a minimum of 3, and some of 6-7. Theres the Mage guild, which is not unroleplayingy since you are an alchemist. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but I believe you would find the reward for that very useful.

Had you not done the Arena, the fighters guild may have been unroleplayingy, but since you have...

The Thieves guild also fits with your skill set and gameplay choices, as Assasins and thieves share similar talents.

Apart from that, theres a lot of freeform quests, like the niniroot quest, the daedric shrine quests, vampire hunting etc etc.

My Alchemy is at 100, and I still havne't found any Master equipment. They can only be found as loot, or in certain dungeons.

Also, have you gone through all the random oblivion gates? At higher levels its very rewarding, as the stones you get can be used anywhere to enchant your armor and weapons. The world is filled with random gates...actually in my current mission I'm on for the Mage guild had me going in a dungeon. Before I entered it was a bright sunny day, and everything looked right in the surroundings. When I came out however, the sky was red and when I looked to my left there was a big huge honking oblivion gate. I thought that was very cool.

Have you found the two secret horses? I really want one of them.

I am working through the Mage Guild Quests, and after that I either plan to go through the deadric shrine quests, try to find the Master alchemy equipment, or get into the real-estate game. I only own one house at the moment, and its a pain to travel back to anvil when I'm in the east.

PrinzMegaherz - There are a lot of different models that have been tested or are in testing now. I'm not saying that I particularly like the fact that they chose to release one skin and charge $2.00 for it. But I wouldn't mind paying a preimum for proffesional quality content, and support the developers of a game or franchise that I'd like to see continue. Its not a new concept, a lot of amatuer mod teams cross over into the commercial realm. Why shouldn't they be compensated for releasing additional content? Would it be better to wait 6 months to a year for a $30 expansion pack? I am not upset that they are charging like a lot of people, and you seem to be, I am upset at the content they chose to sell.

[shovah]

ive already started the theives guild, ive done the mages guild with a previous character and didnt exactly find it useful, ive practically completed the ninroot quest and i get bored rather quickly of the random quests.
and as for secret horses what are they, the only one i can think of that would qualify as secret is shadowmere (look really cool)

[Cainehill]

There's apparently an immortal horse - getting it means you don't have to even think about spending $2 for the horse armor download.

[OG_Gleep]

Really? I find it hard to stock certain ingredients.

The random quests? Are you reffering to the freeform (daedric shrines) or the misc quests.

[shovah]

the misc quests, they all seem too short/simple.

edit: i have a question, do camelion effects stack? ive got a curiass of the spy with 20% cam and the hands of midnight that have +10% cam so do these stack or does only the highest count?