Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong's Head Cantina - After Hours

[Timstone]

Wow! Hold it GT!! You're no spawn of Satan, you're just a plain and simple tyrannic dicator. Nothing special.
Sorry, what I meant was that to be a LAWYERS is evil. They are the spawn of something far worse than Satan (who's not such a bad guy as everybody thinks he is), lawyers are the brainchild of economics. I HATE ECONOMY!! Alas, it's necessary evil. You can't live with it, but you can't live without it.

[Growltigga]

Timstone, I may be missing something in the Dutch/English transalatiuon but why do you hate ECONOMY, do you mean you hate capitalism?

You have to remember that lawyers are one of the oldest professions. In Ancient Greece/Ancient Rome, they were employed as arbiters on behalf of the common people to counterbalance the authority of the state, and to aid the democratic process by ensuring that anybody had access to a appropriate advice.

That is what happens now, say you are caught doing something nefarious in Kleigat Pampercity, who is going to stop the police doing what the hell they want with you and breaking all sorts of laws. The answer is your inaliable right to appoint a lawyer, their purpose is to speak for you and to ensure that your constitutional rights are not abused.

It is all about balance.

The real reason why people dont like lawyers is becasue they have to use them when something bad is happening. People are already in a poor situation and having to pay for advice is just something else that adds to their woes (it is strange how many people DONT MIND paying their lawyers' fees when they get the result they want)..

I am a corporate lawyer so I get a bad name as people think I am responsible for all the woes on teh global stock markets etc. They actually seem to forget that I act for banks that are lending money to companies to acquire other companies. Generally, this means that the workforce keep their jobs and dont get laid off, that the company has the funds to prosper and grow and that more people get jobs. It is capitalism and certain elements of capitalism are despicable, but at the end of the day it is one of the few economic systems that ACTUALLY WORKS...

Feudalism didn't, communism didn't, you may not like it but capitalism generally does work

[dogscoff]

*Dogscoff is standing by the bar, when he sees a big lever labelled "narrator".

Never saw that before, I wonder what it does...

He pulls the lever. I deep, disembodied voice rolls across the room, and everyone stops to listen, wondering just where it's coming from.

"...and so began the Cantina Wars. The battle lines were drawn, and forces rallied to each side. Brother was pitted against brother, Bill Gates clone against Bill Gates clone, mongoose against mongoose and Taz against a cardboard cut-out of Taz in one of the most brutal, vicious, bloody and downright wierd campaigns ever fought..."

[Growltigga]

Dogscoff, sorry me old muckajee but the FBW's and mongoose are all on our side.

The battle lines are drawn, the dreaded silence before the clash has occurred, and I am disturbed to see that my call to arms has not resulted in any mass enrollment to the cause, but simply triggered Fyron to spark a daft argument when he should be doing his homework, ZeroAdunn to start gibbering insanely about bad hair and lawn gnomes and Gryphin to start contemplating if he can find a virgin the Massachussetts area (faint hope)..

I am disturbed at this lack of support for homocidal dictators

[Ragnarok]

Ooo, Ooo, pick me, pick me!! I'll fight!

[Growltigga]

Great, so far it is Growltigga in his Braveheart costume, 1 tyrannosaurus, 69 FBW's, 18,532 mongooses, 27,945 assorted other creatures, 12 siege engines and Ragnarok, holding a piece of wood with a six inch nail driven through it and wearig an old colander on his head and with a string vest sprayed silver on it by way of armour...

This is going to be a tough fight

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Growltigga:
You have to remember that lawyers are one of the oldest professions.

The oldest profession, and the second oldest have a lot in common. With both you pay through the nose, with both you end up getting screwed. But only with one do you get to enjoy it.

[Timstone]

Originally posted by Growltigga:
It is capitalism and certain elements of capitalism are despicable, but at the end of the day it is one of the few economic systems that ACTUALLY WORKS...

Feudalism didn't, communism didn't, you may not like it but capitalism generally does work

Yes, this is what I mean. Capitalism works. It's also going to work for me when I get a decent job. And I like that a lot. But I simply don't like that way lawyers and economics are always abused. A very small group of people are getting all the wealth and the prosperity and the rest buckles under the presure to deliver more wealth and prosperity.
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the few good sides of capitalism, but it also has it's flaws. I know no system ever is going to be perfect, there will always be flaws and imperfections and unfair rules etc, etc, etc...
I'm going to be an egineer. You should see how much everything is coupled to money/costs/economy. When I design something I must obey all kinds of ****ty rules to comply with all the various economic regulations and requirements. All this neverending BS is not worth it to alter your designs so many times you don't even know if it's going to work. And all that in the name of ECONOMY!
I'm not a reactionaire, but that's why I HATE lawyers and ECONOMY. It al represents our unending desire for more and cheaper products that don't Last very long and are very ugly.

I hope you understand this GT. I really didn't try to piss you of or making an angry mod to burn down your house and throw you and your family into the fire or even worse, put you all in a room full with crying infants, I just gave you people (??) my vision on the whole matter.

P.S. I'm with you in the siege of the fake cantina! Death to the clone cantina!!

[ October 31, 2002, 14:48: Message edited by: Timstone ]

[Growltigga]

Timstone, have a slight reality check, lawyers are not wealthy, the real fat cats are the business and entrepeneurs (but you cannt generally moan at the latter, after all they take the risks).

The real professional fat cats are the accountants, generally, accountants earn far more than lawyers, far far more indeed

[geoschmo]

It appears the clone can't be a tina has wisely chosen to accept your demands and end the charade GT.