Endgame Diversity Mod - v1.2 released

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by Calahan

Valerius, I think you'll find llamabeast created the Endgame Diversity Nation just so he can finally win a MP game

Don't underestimate his Awe +4. Throws people off their game.

[Ironhawk]

Too lazy to paste content. Heres my thoughts on EDV...

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...0&#entry411362

[Wrana]

Originally Posted by Ironhawk

Too lazy to paste content. Heres my thoughts on EDV...

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...0&#entry411362

Generally agree with these points except I'm not sure about whether Ents should be here at all. If they are good, they make Tree Lords obsolete, if they aren't good, they are useless. I'd think more about some Were(bear?) thugs with some magic, full slots and built-in regeneration...

[rdonj]

Originally Posted by Wrana

Generally agree with these points except I'm not sure about whether Ents should be here at all. If they are good, they make Tree Lords obsolete, if they aren't good, they are useless. I'd think more about some Were(bear?) thugs with some magic, full slots and built-in regeneration...

My counter to this, is why do we care about treelords anyway? They suck. They can't move, don't get you any higher magic than you had access to anyway, and don't even give you much crosspath magic. The best thing I can say about them is that there's only three of them, so if you really want a specific one, you have a good chance of getting it quickly. But seriously, the treelords are lame. The best use of them I can think of is to cast faery trod to move units around. I also don't see how were(bear) thugs would be functionally any different than treants. They would be a powerful nature summon with theoretically very similar magic paths that totally eclipsed the treelords and made them even more useless than they already are. I guess the biggest difference is that werebears would get full slots


Random thought: I find the idea of a Weretree completely hilarious.

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by rdonj

My counter to this, is why do we care about treelords anyway? They suck. They can't move, don't get you any higher magic than you had access to anyway, and don't even give you much crosspath magic. The best thing I can say about them is that there's only three of them, so if you really want a specific one, you have a good chance of getting it quickly. But seriously, the treelords are lame. The best use of them I can think of is to cast faery trod to move units around.

Yeah, treelords are just sad. Rather than worrying about the Diversity summons overshadowing them I'd much prefer boosting treelords just as we talked earlier about boosting the elemental royalty. As a starting point what about mapmove of at least 1 and #onebattlespell of Gaia's Blessing and maybe improving their magic? That way, their role isn't thug/SC duty but battlefield support.

[Wrana]

Originally Posted by rdonj

My counter to this, is why do we care about treelords anyway? They suck. They can't move, don't get you any higher magic than you had access to anyway, and don't even give you much crosspath magic. The best thing I can say about them is that there's only three of them, so if you really want a specific one, you have a good chance of getting it quickly. But seriously, the treelords are lame. The best use of them I can think of is to cast faery trod to move units around. I also don't see how were(bear) thugs would be functionally any different than treants. They would be a powerful nature summon with theoretically very similar magic paths that totally eclipsed the treelords and made them even more useless than they already are. I guess the biggest difference is that werebears would get full slots

By the way, Treelords can't make use of Faery Trod - they are "too immobile"! %) And yes, werebears would have free slots and some mobility.
Also agree that Treelords should be boosted similarly to elemental royalty. #onebattlespell seems to be a good way.

[llamabeast]

No, Calahan's right though - anyone fancy an Endgame Diversity Test Nation vs Kailasa duel? I think it is fairly likely that I may win because of Kailasa's poor PD.

PS Much more than 2!

[llamabeast]

Also, thanks very much everyone for all the feedback. It's very helpful and I will mull over it carefully - apologies for not replying directly to the points raised.

Tomorrow I will have a lovely free day and am planning to work on the new version, so if anyone has any additional comments now would be the time to make them. Thanks!

[llamabeast]

Hooray! New version released. Please see the first post for details.

Many thanks to everyone again for all the feedback. I went through it very carefully when making the update (I made notes!). Hope people enjoy the new version.

[Valerius]

Thanks, llama. Would it make sense to give the .dm file a different name than the first version since several games are in progress with the .9 release?