MP Game - Live and Learn (newbie game)-running - Page 14

Yvelina · #**131** October 30th, 2004, 02:58 PM

> Inexplicably, the Heliophagus tried repeatedly to enrage, blind, and boil the blood of Burninator, rather than engage in combat and risk its skin.

On the other hand, the timidity of your supercombatants served them well in the other battles. I wish they had not routed - I think I killed only one big guy or two... when I was shooting for a lot more.

> Never mind the undead titans and demons rising from their swamps.

As they rise, so shall they sink

Schmoe · #**132** November 4th, 2004, 11:25 PM

The nation of C'tis concedes. They cannot fight against multiple "instant" fortresses, 7-8 Ghost Riders, multiple Flames from the Sky, and an onslaught of Tartarians and multiply empowered mages, each turn. Had the C'tis general (me) more time in RL, he might continue just to experiment with a few things before his swift demise, but such is not the case. Congratulations to Vanheim! And thanks to everyone who played in this game.

Yvelina · #**133** November 5th, 2004, 12:26 AM

> They cannot fight against multiple "instant" fortresses, 7-8 Ghost Riders, multiple Flames from the Sky, and an onslaught of Tartarians and multiply empowered mages, each turn.

I hope you do not think I was cheating. If you wish, I can send you a few turn files to see how I did it. By the way, the Last turn I divided my attacks between you and Abysia. And I have a good third of my forces besieging Pythium's castles.

If everyone else conceeds we might want to free the slot on the server.

Thufir · #**134** November 5th, 2004, 12:38 AM

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Yvelina said:
> They cannot fight against multiple "instant" fortresses, 7-8 Ghost Riders, multiple Flames from the Sky, and an onslaught of Tartarians and multiply empowered mages, each turn.

I hope you do not think I was cheating.

I didn't take Schmoe's comments that way. I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly have no reason whatsoever to think that you were cheating.

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If you wish, I can send you a few turn files to see how I did it. By the way, the Last turn I divided my attacks between you and Abysia. And I have a good third of my forces besieging Pythium's castles.

If everyone else conceeds we might want to free the slot on the server.

Well, that's a no brainer! Yes, I concede. Well fought Yvelina! Your forces in the end game were truly impressive, and I had no hope of standing against any of your high quality Tartarians.

It was a great game everyone, I learned a lot and really enjoyed myself. Thanks to all involved! If I don't hear any objections, I'll stop the game tomorrow morning.

- Thufir

Schmoe · #**135** November 5th, 2004, 10:59 AM

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Yvelina said:
> They cannot fight against multiple "instant" fortresses, 7-8 Ghost Riders, multiple Flames from the Sky, and an onslaught of Tartarians and multiply empowered mages, each turn.

I hope you do not think I was cheating.

No, I'm just slightly discouraged because I thought I was in a somewhat stronger position than I was. I probably made a few mistakes the Last 5 turns or so, as I had to rush my turns due to RL, but I was so far behind on the resource curve it didn't really matter. My best guess is that allowing you to have the Nexus as long as you did was a serious mistake. That, and the fact that you didn't fight another opponent until late in the game when Arco went AI, so you were free to spend all of your time building up. Seriously though, well done. You fully convinced me of the reasons I belonged in this newbie game

Yvelina · #**136** November 5th, 2004, 05:36 PM

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Yvelina said:
> They cannot fight against multiple "instant" fortresses, 7-8 Ghost Riders, multiple Flames from the Sky, and an onslaught of Tartarians and multiply empowered mages, each turn.

I hope you do not think I was cheating.

No, I'm just slightly discouraged because I thought I was in a somewhat stronger position than I was. I probably made a few mistakes the Last 5 turns or so, as I had to rush my turns due to RL, but I was so far behind on the resource curve it didn't really matter.

Yes, it is the ressources that did it. I had about 170 clams, 150 fetishes and 70 blood stones.

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My best guess is that allowing you to have the Nexus as long as you did was a serious mistake.

The Forge of the Ancients turned out also extremely powerful. This was the second game I had it (the other one started much later, but was faster paced, and I learned TONS from it) Every turn, I was forging 10 pearls and 10 fetishes, and as many blood stones as I could. Apart from Odin, Veni, Vedi and Vici, my commanders were no better than yours. But I could afford much better equipment. I think that my black servants could have taken on a Tartarian of yours and won.

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That, and the fact that you didn't fight another opponent until late in the game when Arco went AI, so you were free to spend all of your time building up.

Actually, I stayed out of the fray because I was afraid to get mobbed. I do not think that I lost a single mage or supercombantant in the war against Arco, Pythium, Abysia and C'tis. Pythium blinded a very powerful Ether Lord, and I had to rush a few Vanadrotts to the rear because they got the swamp sickness, but apart from that, I had no casualties.

And the events justified my fears. As soon as started fighting, although it was against the AI, I got mobbed :-)

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Seriously though, well done. You fully convinced me of the reasons I belonged in this newbie game

When I started I was a MP newbie myself... but at Worldcon Petar (Tuidjy) and I played a lot of games together, and I learned quite a few tricks. And my placement in this game was very fortunate. I still wish I did not feel that I had to attack Jotunheim. But I think that without it, I would not have won.

Thufir · #**137** November 5th, 2004, 06:43 PM

The game is now stopped.

Congratulations on a victory well deserved, Yvelina!

Couple of questions for you:

I recall one of your solo Tartarians kicking my butt in a water province - he was equipped with a Scutata Volturnus, a blood thorn and various other equipment. I've not seen the Scutata in use a whole lot - is that particularly effective generally, or more so underwater? It definitely seemed to be quite effective at mowing through my troops, as I recall...

Would you mind telling us roughly what astral income you were getting from the Arcane Nexus?

bleach168 · #**138** November 5th, 2004, 07:23 PM

Good game, guys. Well played.

I learned quite a lot.

Yvelina was just in an unstoppable position at the end. We should have done something about that much earlier.

Schmoe · #**139** November 5th, 2004, 07:46 PM

Thufir, I can't speak for Yvelina, but I've used the Scutata quite a bit, and it's one of my favorite shields, maybe moreso than a Charcoal Shield. The free Shocking Grasp every turn is great for reducing the chaff, it provides good defense and protection, and it's very cheap.

Schmoe · #**140** November 5th, 2004, 07:52 PM

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Good game, guys. Well played.

I learned quite a lot.

Yvelina was just in an unstoppable position at the end. We should have done something about that much earlier.

Yeah, I agree. There was a point for me where I could go north and attack Vanheim, or go west and attack Machaka (and eventually Abyssia). Because my capitol was on the very border of Machaka/Abyssia, I decided to go west. The fact that Yvelina was a very accomodating ally helped sway my decision. In retrospect, things may have turned out very differently if I had turned north, instead.