MP: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI. Game Over. Team ACGHHS wins!

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

Everyone who says they staled send in THAT turn now.

Sent, in theory.

[Septimius Severus]

Very good. Waiting on Caelum and Neifel now, to submit the .2h's they were gonna send in for last turn. No peeking at the new turn. No one else submit anything. Lets get it over with and move on.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

Bellac, thanks for your input. Seemed everyone but you, me, and Squirrel were against Ulm and Ashdod in the first lineup. That is the reason why I went with option 2. The old heads aka/wise veterans (DrP and Chris) were ardently opposed. The merc idea was actually brought to the surface again, by the addition of R'lyeh and figuring a way to work them in.

Chris, Crom is the god referred to in the Conan stories. Ulm is apparently based somewhat on Germany and of course there's that whole barbarian thing going on there (just ask the Romans ). Never could hold onto Germania in a lasting way. What's your preference by the way?

I know who crom is "by crom" he muttered.
I like puns.. so I was making a pun on children of the corn...
hmm...

What happened to *cause* the stale by the way? And I sure hope its only drp and squirrel and caelum ....

[Septimius Severus]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

I know who crom is "by crom" he muttered.
I like puns.. so I was making a pun on children of the corn...
hmm...

What happened to *cause* the stale by the way? And I sure hope its only drp and squirrel and caelum ....

I figured that might be a possiblity as well. Children of the Crom, indeed!

By the gods man! I don't need puns, I need opinions.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

I figured that might be a possiblity as well. Children of the Crom, indeed!

By the gods man! I don't need puns, I need opinions.

Ok.. you're studly and will father beautiful children.

[chrispedersen]

Putting on my team captain hat...

if the server processed early (ie not a player fault) I'm all in favor of a redo. Fair is fair.

However, for our team grudge was only able to get in about 6 orders before he had to leave for his rugby tournament. Since my internet connectivity is spotty I had asked Squirrelloid to check and finish his turn.

As squirrel was one of the ones that had staled, I'd pretty much have to say that if we're not living with the existing turn I'd have to say squirrel has to be allowed to finish both turns he was to work on.

[Squirrelloid]

I have not touched grudge's turn yet - someone let me know if i'm allowed...

[Gandalf Parker]

It appears to be a server action.
So the stales now have a reasonable time to turn in their turns so we can process and move on.

[Squirrelloid]

Seeing no response from anyone, I've gone ahead and caused the arco turn to be done properly. (Grudge doesn't seem to have done much before he had to take off, so it was basically a stale as it was).

If anyone feels this is really inappropriate, gandalf can use the old 2h file. But i can't stress enough how much like a stale arco's turn was. (And, having no knowledge of what's coming, its not like giving arco a real turn is in any way unfair, especially since I would have done something with it anyway if the game hadn't hosted early).

[Septimius Severus]

Gandalf did the rollback because it was a server error and some of you felt you were not content to let things lie. That is fine and fair.

Regarding Squirrel and Chris' request regarding Arco, I gave instructions to Gandalf to make sure only the stalers submitted to prevent as much cheating as possible on the rollback and of course to speed things up. That has generally been our policy, as you all know. Allowing Arco to submit and no one else (other than the stalers) generally violates this policy. It would be unfair and inconsistent to allow it.

But I understand the situation with the Arco turn. Grudge had indicated that he was going away for the weekend and the turn came on rather unexpectantly. Thus it could be argued he was also affected by the server error. Therefore, I am going to allow the Arco exception this time, provided there are no objections. If there are, then it will not be allowed. Hope that is clear and fair.

So that is the situation. If I see any objections about Arco, the Arco resubmission will be disallowed.

Lets get moving one way or the other please. I will check back in at around noon EST Friday, to see if those turns are in (Neifel and Caelum) and to see if there are any posts objecting to the Arco submission.

Note: We may also still have the option (depending upon what Gandalf has done with the files and what he says) to just let sleeping dogs lie, i.e. use the turns we have (if anyone didn't get a turn, they can be re-sent, DrP mentioned Ulm didn't get a turn for some reason) and just move on. But Gandalf must give the OK, and there must be NO objections or complaints from anyone. (My personal preference ).