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January 16th, 2023, 01:23 AM
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Re: MBT's
Don,
You'll need these (Or some other.) for T-80BVM UNITS 046 AND 048. The current tank pictures are of the T-80BV.
Distinctions are in... "The improved protection suite is what gives the T-80BVM its new look. Older Kontakt-1 ERA of the T-80BV has been replaced by new Relikt ERA. This covers large portions of the skirts, the hull front and the frontal arc of the turret. Relikt is not only effective against HEAT warheads, but also increased protection against kinetic projectiles. The main armor of the T-80BV remains unaltered. The rear of the tank has been fitted with cage armor, providing a degree of protection against HEAT warheads. There are reports that Arena-M active protection system is to be fitted in the near future." ORNX clearly shows they.
Also, not noted is that the T-80BVM are not equipped with rear mounted fuel tanks as currently shown in the OOB.
These are Ukrainian captured units in use (They have ~35 at this time.). The Ukrainian 93rd Mechanized Battalion is the only one I've found using them so far.
Refs for further validation...
https://weaponsystems.net/system/835-T-80BVM
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...bvm_tanks.html
https://tass.com/defense/1098733
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January 16th, 2023, 12:59 PM
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Re: MBT's
Stupidity comes in MANY forms. I provide one real life example while I was onboard at that time PCU NEBRASKA SSBN-739 @ Electric Boat ( EB) Groton, CT. IN '92/'93.
A senior Torpedo Man ( TM) First Class ( E6) while searching for wire suitable for hooking up the speakers to his home entertainment and music system in the shipyard came across the " find of his life" when he came across more than he needed, and we all know " more is better".
After work he promptly went home with his " treasure" hooked everything up, inspected his work and found all was in order. When he turned it on, he blew up all his equipment, was thrown across the room and suffered from burns on his hands and body and also managed to start a fire in his house. Fortunately, his Wife and kids were in another room at the time and suffered no injuries.
He would make the USN wide QTRLY. Safety Bulletin (A TM1/SS at...) and as you can imagine launch an investigation leading to fines against the contractor for improper disposal of an explosive equip. and more.
The bottom line here is don't use DETONATION CORDS FOR YOUR HOME ELECTRONICS!!!! You know what's coming...
So, in the spirit of the above, and to " lighten up" the mood around here let's start with the following video I sometimes wish I could use it at work however it might seem inappropriate. One of my heroes from back in the day...
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?&...VRV&ajaxhist=0
So, in a bid to do the same as all above a Russian Sargent does this...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...b693c2264f76d9
Ammo we got that to...
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-sol...nition-1773898
Tank repairs we also have that...
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-acci...lgorod-1773639
There were also several reports last week of a Russian artillery crew blowing themselves and their " tube" up while conducting an attack.
All tragic and it's what happens on a battlefield when in constant contact with your adversary.
Cartman and I hope you won't handle any explosive devices anytime soon and because Cartman is afterall Cartman...
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?&...VRV&ajaxhist=0
Regards,
Pat
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January 16th, 2023, 04:34 PM
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Re: MBT's
Oi!
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January 19th, 2023, 12:45 PM
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Re: MBT's
Just an FYI - I have decided that the Captured Russian tanks will stay in the Ukrainian OOB but they all will be given the 159 Unit class = "Captured tanks" So they will not show up in normal Ukrainian armoured formations but will be available in one and twos.
The APC's etc for now are in normal formation UC's
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January 19th, 2023, 05:48 PM
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Re: MBT's
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Also, not noted is that the T-80BVM are not equipped with rear mounted fuel tanks as currently shown in the OOB.
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Agreed the photos of these things do not show rear fuel tanks
BUT
But NOTE the cradles to hold them ARE there
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January 19th, 2023, 07:58 PM
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Re: MBT's
Should be an interesting day tomorrow... MAYBE
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Story by Reuters • 3h ago
Estonia (Reuters) - Several countries will announce sending Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine on Friday at a meeting at the German Ramstein Air Base, the Lithuanian defence minister said on Thursday.
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"pledging" is one thing..... the M-84 comes to mind....... it's what crosses the border that counts
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January 20th, 2023, 12:43 PM
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Re: MBT's
Just more dithering
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Ukraine will have to wait longer for the battle tanks it says it needs from Western allies in order to recapture territory occupied by Russia.
A meeting of U.S. and European defense ministers failed to come to any agreement on the delivery of main battle tanks Friday, Germany's new Defense Minister Boris Pistorius told reporters after the meeting at Ramstein Air Base.
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January 20th, 2023, 01:42 PM
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Re: MBT's
i SHOULD BE IN THE SHOWER BUT SAW THIS. sTORY GOOD SCROLL TO BOTTOM FOR WHY i'M not WERE i SHOULD BE now!!
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...yker_apcs.html
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Re: MBT's
Wonderful.........
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Re: MBT's
This has been inside my head for almost three months now and has come more to the forefront while working on my submission.
The country is currently taking a neutral stance on the Russian Ukrainian War though there is some talk within the country of maybe sending humanitarian aid.
There's also been no mention from the Western allies concerning this tank at all which is somewhat surprising given the push especially earlier in the war to get the Ukraine tanks they're used to operating.
The country I'm talking about has 48 such tanks that beat out at least one European, a couple of Russian and finally I believe it was one Chinese offering during those countries tank competition around 2010.
Need more? OK, ended up buying Chinese VT-4 tanks so that they could retire their M-48 "Bulldogs".
Time to end this " madness" and get it out of my head.
Besides the fact they REALLY like this tank, why at least publicly hasn't anyone approached Thailand concerning buying or trading for the 48 OPLOT-T tanks they have and sending them back to the Ukraine?
Just had to get that off my shoulder.
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