Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92 - Page 15

dojango · #**141** January 5th, 2012, 11:52 PM

Say, is there anywhere I can find some stats on the summons added in CBM 1.92? Just wondering what I'm getting (or will be getting).

PriestyMan · #**142** January 6th, 2012, 12:10 AM

look in the mod file?

shatner · #**143** January 7th, 2012, 06:36 AM

Oh yeah, one more "can't cast underwater" weirdness is that you can't cast darkness. What's that about?

Shangrila00 · #**144** January 7th, 2012, 11:39 PM

Is there any reason the LA ULm Guardian hero is map move 1? He was mapmove 2 in vanilla, and it would only make sense seeing as how he's the first and leader of the Ghoul Guardians who are all mapmove 2 themselves. As it is now, it's not very thematic leading Guardians with Banes, Mound Kings, or God forbid, Fortune Tellers when you have their commander who's too slow to keep up.

Slobby · #**145** January 8th, 2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shatner

Oh yeah, one more "can't cast underwater" weirdness is that you can't cast darkness. What's that about?

Same reason that you can't cast solar brilliance.

You're too deep! That said the UW dark citadel should have auto darkness much like the cave city.

shatner · #**146** January 9th, 2012, 01:35 PM

The argument for not being able to cast star/brightness spells underwater has been that there is too much intervening water for the light to reach that far down. That's a reasonable argument aside from the fact that you can still cast Light of the Northern Star underwater. However, it is not consistent with the game overall.

If fighting underwater is so deep that light from the surface can't reach you... then you are already fighting in darkness and the effect should be auto-cast. If light from the surface can reach you underwater, then casting a spell (darkness) which blocks that light should have the effect of plunging the battlefield into darkness. Either way, darkness should work underwater.

Admiral_Aorta · #**147** January 10th, 2012, 08:21 PM

Ideally deep sea provinces would have auto darkness like caves and normal sea provinces should be like land.

Slobby · #**148** January 12th, 2012, 07:01 PM

Hey, EA Oceania, I like most of the changes, but the addition of the Triton Queen has me stumped. On first glance thug or baby SC chassis, BUT, she seems to have low astral? I summoned a couple and they ranged from S1 to S2. Now she's 55 water gems and with that astral she's just asking to be magic dueled to death, so realistically why would one summon her?

She either needs 0 astral or needs a price change imo - perhaps both? Water gems for EA O are pretty tight, and Grendels/Wendigo's are cheaper and with the right pretender set up easy to get, so once again why would one summon her?

Bwaha · #**149** January 25th, 2012, 05:46 PM

Hi, do you all know that Helheims dwarves have a crafting bonus!

That means skull mentors are cheap...

While I like it, it seems to me a bit overpowered...

kianduatha · #**150** January 26th, 2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Slobby

Hey, EA Oceania, I like most of the changes, but the addition of the Triton Queen has me stumped. On first glance thug or baby SC chassis, BUT, she seems to have low astral? I summoned a couple and they ranged from S1 to S2. Now she's 55 water gems and with that astral she's just asking to be magic dueled to death, so realistically why would one summon her?

She either needs 0 astral or needs a price change imo - perhaps both? Water gems for EA O are pretty tight, and Grendels/Wendigo's are cheaper and with the right pretender set up easy to get, so once again why would one summon her?

Honestly, the Triton Queen is a throwback to Burnsaber's Underwater Gameplay Improvement Mod and was created in the context of CBM 1.6 or so. Other things have changed to make her...less needed, let's say. That being said, the low astral was there to give astral access if you didn't happen to have any on your pretender.