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Huzurdaddi · #**141** May 21st, 2005, 08:12 PM

Wow. After playing around with rich settings wish I was playing Atlantis, or R'lyegh, or Caelum ( although they have a "problem" that you don't see too often, they can't make leaders fast enough at the start ).

Aku · #**142** May 21st, 2005, 11:05 PM

Sorry about that, the rich world should of been part of first post but boron and i intended for the game to be rich world for more national troops.

Boron · #**143** May 22nd, 2005, 09:07 AM

Sorry about forgetting the rich world.
At least it is not as bad as if i would have forgotten to state that we play with vh research.
Since the effect of rich world is for every nation the same because it is just a simple multiplier (gold+resources x1.5) it luckily doesn't do much damage imho

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Now happy killing,slaughtering and murdering at all

Catquiet · #**144** May 22nd, 2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Boron said:

Since the effect of rich world is for every nation the same because it is just a simple multiplier (gold+resources x1.5) it luckily doesn't do much damage imho

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Except to the Ermorian utopia, where we have abandoned capitalist greed and recycle old troops instead of stripping the land of its precious resources.

Huzurdaddi · #**145** May 22nd, 2005, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Boron said:
Sorry about forgetting the rich world.
At least it is not as bad as if i would have forgotten to state that we play with vh research.
Since the effect of rich world is for every nation the same because it is just a simple multiplier (gold+resources x1.5) it luckily doesn't do much damage imho

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Now happy killing,slaughtering and murdering at all

That's not correct. It screws blood nations somewhat badly, actually. Blood hunting is a method of converting gold into a type of gem ( blood ) which is then converted into ( generally ) some type of troop.

This changes the ratios.

Oh and let me add Abysia to the list of nations I wish I was playing. Yes I know that they are a blood nation and thus somewhat screwed. However SC's mod really buffs them ( a total suprize to me ) and with the Rich settings they can take total advanatge of this buffing. HC provinces are no match for them by turn 3 ( regardless of pretender, you can take a Rainbow and still be crushing HC on turn 3, yokies).

Jurri · #**146** May 22nd, 2005, 11:34 AM

I always thought blood nations benefited immensely from a rich setting. Consider: you need less provinces producing gold to support the same amount of blood hunters, therefore you can field more of them. (Generally, a province used for blood hunting gives much more benefit than one used for gold, right? Maybe not under Cherry mod, though.)

Huzurdaddi · #**147** May 22nd, 2005, 12:57 PM

Jurri,

In short you are wrong. As I explained blood hunting converts gold into gems. Now it costs more gold to buy a blood slave.

The only way to blood hunt efficiently in a rich world is the Mictlan way, ie: 100% taxes with heavy patrolling. However most nations are not setup, ie: do not have access to cheap patrollers, to patrol efficiently. Blood hunting with 0% taxes is much less effecient on a rich setting. The end result is that I would not have played a blood nation had I known that we were going to play a rich map.

On and one more note wrt. to Boron's note that it affects all nations equally it doesn't. The nations I noted above have a number of troops with a high gold/resource ratio. This allows them to take advanatge of the rich settings right away. There may be other nations that can do it as well I have not gone through them all.

Huzurdaddi · #**148** May 22nd, 2005, 01:39 PM

Zen is releasing his new mods today, including the item mod. I don't know what's in them, but we could restart the game with these mods.

CUnknown · #**149** May 22nd, 2005, 02:37 PM

Huz-

Just deal with it, it doesn't hurt you that badly. Besides, we're playing with all the factions anyway, so someone has to be your race.

And, sure, Rich World makes the cost of blood slaves higher, but as a percentage-wise it's exactly the same! You have %50 more money in the bank, and your slaves cost %50 more. What's the big deal? It's not something that's going to cost you the game. If you play well, you still have an equal chance of winning as does everyone else. Stop being such a wuss.

YellowCactus · #**150** May 22nd, 2005, 02:56 PM

This game isn't perfect. There will be exploits. Personally, If I can take down CUnknown, this game will be a win for me! It's even greater the victory when betrail of the Cunknown is involved!
-Yc