Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War

[Slynky]

Originally posted by rextorres:
Sinapus,

Bush has been doing the same sorts things in his political commercials that you claim Moore is doing in Bowling for Columbine. Are you prepared to call Bush a liar as well?

Anyway here is an interesting rebuttal to your link.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/12/171427/607

Interesting!

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by alarikf:
Who's losing their cool?

Up to now none. But it is better to remind everybody to keep cool while they are listening, isn't it?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I got sick of the smooth talk in that link.

I think maybe I might see the film so I can form my own opinion.

Originally posted by rextorres:
Sinapus,

Bush has been doing the same sorts things in his political commercials that you claim Moore is doing in Bowling for Columbine. Are you prepared to call Bush a liar as well?

Anyway here is an interesting rebuttal to your link.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/12/171427/607

[PvK]

Just the fellow who missed the Last episode of The Shield, it seemed to me.

PvK

Originally posted by alarikf:
Who's losing their cool?

quote:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Guys lets keep it on a sensable level and all remember that no jubject is worth loosing our cool over. Remember if people on the web PYO, then you take the internet far too seriously.

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[LordOffender]

An interesting take on this debate about this movie. MSN Article

To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery.

I also watched a few interviews with him and I have to say that he has said its not an honest film nor should it be taken as one. However, it is a film and not politics. The politics only reside in the minds of the people who watch the film.

It should be noted that the movie is being released by I think MiraMax and the two brothers who own that company are registared Democrats and JFK (Kerry) supporters.

I think it best that this movie be taken with a huge grain of salt and if seen, not taken seriously. It is after all, and again Moore said this, his opinion on things.

Is it worth the $8.50 price tag? Well I hope not.

[ June 23, 2004, 08:45: Message edited by: LordOffender ]

[Slynky]

Then, while pointing the "Miramax" owners out, you might look into the alignment of the author of the piece as well. Since the piece DOES deal with political material, it tends to polarize a lot of powerful people...especially ones with their hands "under the table" or those who need to "suck up" in order to maintain their status.

[primitive]

Hey Slynky, don’t dish the cred of Christopher Hitchens (the author)

After all, he has earned it the hard way in his dayjob as a columnist for Vanity Fair

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by LordOffender:
I also watched a few interviews with him and I have to say that he has said its not an honest film nor should it be taken as one.

Uh, I think you probably misheard this part. He might have said it's not balanced. Moore has never hidden the fact that he has an agenda. But everybody has their own agenda, some are just more upfront about it then others. Of course there have been and will continue to be people saying the movie contains distortions or lies, but I would be very suprised to hear Moore himself say the film is anything less then honest.

[dogscoff]

it seems to me that {moore} displays a political bias not unlike the people he is so fond of criticizing.

Well... I don't think it's the political bias he's criticising in people like George Bush- it's the business 'bias' he seems to display in some of his political dealings.

Politics should be politics, business should be business. Whenever either one visits the other, it leaves the door wide open for corruption to follow...

[Cipher7071]

I don't any more about what's in Michael Moore's "documentary" than anyone else who hasn't actually seen it. But, I have seen Michael Moore interviewed, and it seems to me that he displays a political bias not unlike the people he is so fond of criticizing. It's just one more case of the pot calling the kettle black.