Suricate - pbem LA newbie game - (Running)

[Tharsonius]

I'm telling this all the time.
This is the worst game I played so far. It's ok to form an alliance, but to play without the intention to win and only helping someone other kills the fun.
You can call this "role play" or whatever, but it destroys the gamebalace (especially in a smaller game with fewer players). I don't think I want to play with you again.

[Torin]

Tienchi

[Redfrog]

Tharsonius said:
I'm telling this all the time.
This is the worst game I played so far. It's ok to form an alliance, but to play without the intention to win and only helping someone other kills the fun.
You can call this "role play" or whatever, but it destroys the gamebalace (especially in a smaller game with fewer players). .

It's the great alliance destroys the game balance, not me. This game gone wrong when the first alliance against R'lyeh took place. When the second alliance against Utgard took place, I realized that there won't have a winner if everyone kept gang on the strongest nation. From then I change my self-interest for the alliance to win. As for allied victories, they are always "allowed".

Though I don't think it's fair to carry things from one game to another, I would like to say I don't want to play with a player who gives up fighting but doing odd things like scorched earth with the sole intention of making life miserable for the opponent, like you It's your silly actions made me lost temper and decided to siege that rubbish R'lyeh castle instead of invading X, everything gone worse from there and in the end I lost the patience about this game.

[Torin]

no, alliance victory is not allowed.
Only one god will ascend.

[Tharsonius]

"making life miserable for the opponent"

Thats the way to fight a war 5 against 1 (when you are the one). I never give up and fight until the end - guess who dispelled again this turn...

[yandav]

I'll try to explain my point of view but english isn't my native language so I hope you will understand what I say:
- this game was a lot of fun. It was my first MP game on this forum ( I've already played 3 MP games on a french forum ) and it was the first time I survived long enough to see the late game ( tartarian everywhere, quite scary! ).
I also discovered a nation that I never played even in SP game: pangaea. Their late game sucks but they have wonderful troops, I should have taken an other pretender.
- I understand both tharsonius and holyfrog's point of view about diplomacy so I won't try to reconcile you
- anyway, I'm losing interest in this game: I know that that I don't have a single chance to win ( I got a glimpse at utgard's capital and it's really impressive ) but I still have a great empire and my turns take a lot of time to play. Utgard send me approximatively 2 horrors and 4 disease demons each turn and the greatest part of my commanders are horror marked or insane. With astral corruption up, I fear that this game will become more and more frustrating.
So, I'm very close to set myself to AI but I don't want to leave c'tis. What can I do? I'm ready to admit that utgard won.

[Torin]

Obviously Utgard won. I´m just playing now. If more of us are bored we can call it off.
Disease demons were to my way too but they couldn´t kill the tomb kings.
If you want to keep playing I´ll keep too.

My starting position is really bad. No province makes gold so I was poor for the full game. I couldn´t afford normal troops so only bought mages. And not every turn. Even when my scales werent that bad. Luckily at the end game that´s not all important.

[Redfrog]

Torin said:
no, alliance victory is not allowed.
Only one god will ascend.

OK . I apologize for my actions to seek an alliance victory in recently turns. I'm tired, and have no chance to win, so I set TC to AI. I hope you have a happier game after I leave. I'm sorry.

[fabio80mi]

Alliance victory usually IS allowed, especially if it has a sense in the gaming.

An example : If one nation is attacked heavily , and another player comes to his rescue to stand side by side vs the aggressor sometime (especially if not esplicitally prevented in the game setup) those 2 nation if remain the only one standing in the end can decide to make it a draw beetween themselves (or worst case scenario be allied till the end and then fight it beetween their two )

As for the game it's a real shame it turned out to be not so pleasant in the end, i didnt get exactly what was the problem still if there is a general consensus to who is the winner we can stop it and maybe start a new one from scratch.

At the very least i hope u all enjoyed the experience (end excluded)

Please let me know if i have to stop the game!

[Torin]

OK. Im ready to end and declare Utgard winner.
He did a good game. I think that we had no option when we ganged Ermor and Rlieh.
It was a decent game but the map is not suited for MP I guess.